CCIE - Security - Routing question

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Feb 15th, 2007

Hi,

I am about to undergo training for CCIE - Security. I understand that we have R&S as well in the course structure.

Will this be as intensive as the R&S course.. or just the basic knowledge enough

Thanks

Shyam

I have this problem too.
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Correct Answer by daviddtran about 9 years 7 months ago

Here is my opinion on this:

1) yes, after jan 1st, 2007, routing protocols

will be pre-configured but you still have to

know how it works. One thing you have to keep

in mind is that when you apply security on top

of R&S, things tend to break so you really

have to understand how routing protocols work.

2) even though routing protocols are pre-configured, the lab tends to leave the

hardest thing in the R&S+Security for the

candidate(s) to figure out. This separates

the good engineer(s) who really understand

how things work and the pretenders.

3) Think of it this way, Security lab, IMHO,

is much harder than the R&S (I have never been

to R&S lab) for a simple fact that the

candidate has to deal with more equipments,

ACS, Pix/ASA, VPNc, IDS/IPS, routers, switches

than R&S folks. On top of that, they have to

be aware about the R&S part as well. As I've

said before, just because routing protocols

are pre-configured does not make it any easier.

In summary, the new lab may be more security

concentrated but if you do not have solid

R&S, IMHO, you will be wasting $1250.

HTH

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sundar.palaniappan Thu, 02/15/2007 - 12:39

Shyam,

I don't know if you are inquiring about the Security Written or Lab exam. Either way, Cisco revised the exam contents last year for the security written/lab where it was stated there will be more more emphasis on the security technologies and minimal emphasis on R&S going forward. I believe, it's effective as of Jan 1, 2007. I personally took the old Security written (version 1.0) last week and passed it and this version will not be offered after Mar 31, 2007.

Check out the following links for new written/lab exam blueprint.

http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/security/wr_exam_blueprint_v2.html

http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/security/lab_exam_blueprint_v2.html

HTH

Sundar

daviddtran Fri, 02/16/2007 - 05:49

I passed the security lab last year and I can say that R&S is still an important element

in the Security lab. You don't have to be

an expert in R&S (I was not) but you need

to have solid background in R&S. Some of the

questions in the security lab regarding R&S that

I think a lot of CCIEs in R&S would have

problems understanding them.

HTH

shyamatopsource Fri, 02/16/2007 - 05:56

So after getting your feedback I can assume that before Jan 1 2007 R&S was an integral part of Security. Going forward from Jan 1 2007 R&S Syllabus in Security Lab will be largly reduced.

Some one told me that the revised CCIE Sec Lab will have the routing protocols pre configured in the Lab so that we dont have to troubleshoot the routing part as well...

Can some one confirm that to me

Thanks

Shyam

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daviddtran Fri, 02/16/2007 - 06:07

Here is my opinion on this:

1) yes, after jan 1st, 2007, routing protocols

will be pre-configured but you still have to

know how it works. One thing you have to keep

in mind is that when you apply security on top

of R&S, things tend to break so you really

have to understand how routing protocols work.

2) even though routing protocols are pre-configured, the lab tends to leave the

hardest thing in the R&S+Security for the

candidate(s) to figure out. This separates

the good engineer(s) who really understand

how things work and the pretenders.

3) Think of it this way, Security lab, IMHO,

is much harder than the R&S (I have never been

to R&S lab) for a simple fact that the

candidate has to deal with more equipments,

ACS, Pix/ASA, VPNc, IDS/IPS, routers, switches

than R&S folks. On top of that, they have to

be aware about the R&S part as well. As I've

said before, just because routing protocols

are pre-configured does not make it any easier.

In summary, the new lab may be more security

concentrated but if you do not have solid

R&S, IMHO, you will be wasting $1250.

HTH

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