06-27-2007 10:47 AM - edited 03-03-2019 05:38 PM
Anybody know how is ORF implemeted in SP network ? what is need for it?
thanks
06-27-2007 12:31 PM
ORF is very useful since you can configure a prefix-list indicating what routes are sent to you. Doing this, saves a tremendous amount of bandwidth in some environment and you have the power to modify the requested network(s) from your end instead of the ISP end.
The prefix-list you send via ORF (from the client side) would be placed as an outgoing prefix-list in the ISP side.
Without ORF, placing an incoming prefix-list to block incoming networks at the client side, means that traffic has consumed precious bandwidth.
06-27-2007 01:33 PM
Hi,
Routers exchange their inbound filters in order to be used as outbound filters on neighbor routers, these filters are described in the ORF entries which are part of the route refresh message --> reduces resources (BW + CPU).
ORF capabilities needs to be negotiated by the router for each ORF type supported in the ORF message --> each neighbor monitors his neighbor for his ORF capabilities.
"neighbor
Accordingly, it can be used to be sent to the ISP to be used as an outbound prefix-list @ the ISP in order not to waste resources (the ISP sending all the routes and then the customer filters them after receiving them).
Example:
ISP side:
neighbor
neighbor
Customer side:
neighbor
neighbor
neighbor
ip prefix-list
HTH,
Mohammed Mahmoud.
06-27-2007 02:00 PM
Thank you Mohammed and Edison.
From a BGP prespective, typically customers have the option to recieve "Full routing table" or directly connected routes from SP or recieve defaults routes only.
How would ORF help? when you have default route, why would u need tens and thousands of routes on your router. What is the benefit ?
thank you
06-27-2007 02:12 PM
Hi,
In the case of receiving a default route, ORF has no benefits, its main benefits is when you receive many routes and need to inbound filter some of them.
HTH,
Mohammed Mahmoud.
06-27-2007 03:48 PM
You have no benefits, whatsover, with ORF while receiving just the default route from the ISP.
ORF is only useful for full or partial BGP routing table where bandwidth and cpu usage may be a factor.
06-27-2007 03:53 PM
Thank you Edison.
What is the benefit of full or partial BGP routing table versus default to customers ?
thanks
06-27-2007 04:01 PM
With full BGP routing table, you have the power to filter external networks at the edge. With a partial BGP routing table, you have limited capability while with a default route, you have no way of filtering external networks.
I'm sure there are other advantages of running a full BGP routing table vs a partial one, but the reason above, is the only one that comes to mind at the moment.
06-27-2007 03:59 PM
"How would ORF help? when you have default route, why would u need tens and thousands of routes on your router. What is the benefit ?"
If I understand your question correct you seem to want to know what's the benefit of learning partial or full BGP routing table update rather than just the default route. If that indeed is the question if the network is multi-homed to the provider(s) and learning specific routes it makes the customer Edge routers choose the optimal/shorter route to a destination. With just a default route the routing may or may not occur in a optimal way in such a case.
HTH
Sundar
06-27-2007 04:37 PM
Thank you Edison and Sundar.
Yes, The question was the benefit of partial versus full BGP route. And in which scenario u would use ORF.
Also, just trying to understand the ORF and its application wrt to BGP, have seen few customers looking for few thousand routes support on the CE routers. Was wondering the benefits of it.Why would they need it?. Does not look like multi-homed scenario
thanks
06-27-2007 10:49 PM
Hi,
Just to make sure that you are caution with receiving a full internet routing table, the internet routing table has exceeded 220,000 route, thus always make sure that the routers you are dealing with are capable of handling this amount if routes.
HTH,
Mohammed Mahmoud.
06-28-2007 02:28 AM
As a general rule of thumb, if the topology is simple enough to use static routing, don't use BGP at all.
If you have only one link to ISP, and you are certain you can detect link failure at interface level, than don't use BGP. But if you can't detect link failure, than BGP can help, because it creates neighbor relations using TCP and has keepalive mechanism.
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