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Dec 10th, 2007



Is this it? Only 4 equipment are used in the laboratory? My boss wants to buy the equipment that are used in ccie lab, and I have to say it for him. Does anyone here who has done the test can tell me if this is it? Only 4 equipment (2 routers and 2 switches)


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ccbootcamp Mon, 12/10/2007 - 10:46

Here's what we are running in our racks for R&S:

10x Cisco 2811s running 12.4

4x Cisco Catalyst 3560s running EMI code

1x Frame-relay switch (2522 or equiv)

1x Terminal Server (2511 or equiv)


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Oleg Konovalov Thu, 12/13/2007 - 10:16

Yes for Production network 2811 is much better, but for CCIE R&S LAB preparation you don't need NM slots (may be only for FR switch with NM8a\s).

Oleg Konovalov Thu, 12/13/2007 - 10:33

I think there no difference between 2801 & 1841 for CCIE R&S lab perspective & if you will buy new routers 1841 will be good choice.

swmorris Thu, 12/13/2007 - 10:45

There's little hardware difference, but a LOT of difference for software.

Most of the changes have to do with voice support which we don't care about for the R&S lab, but others we may want include:

Control Plane Policing

DHCP Additions

DRP Server Agent

Etherchannel for Routers

IP Accounting

IP SLA Features

MPLS Features (not for R&S CCIE)


Source Specific Multicast

Time-based ACLs

You can use the Feature Navigator ( to compare software images and see the differences between them for things like this.



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tperrier Sun, 12/16/2007 - 01:17

> I wouldn't use a 2811 for frame switch. 2610/3620 is MUCH cheaper!

And a 2522 even more so! With 10 serial interfaces, you can't beat the interface/dollar ratio. :)

swmorris Tue, 12/11/2007 - 13:03

If you look across multiple CCIE practice lab vendors, I think the minimum you will find is to use 8 routers and 4 switches. You may find others using 10 (like Brad mentioned) or even upwards of 14 routers.

They simply list what kinds of equipment you will see, not quantity. While I'm sure you can find someone to tell you the exact number, it's technically an NDA thing. As Cisco lists on their web site, they do not release the quantities of devices or ports.

Just get yourself enough to be prepared for any situation, and you'll do fine!

Hint: Two of each isn't nearly enough!



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tperrier Wed, 12/12/2007 - 04:08

> While I'm sure you can find someone to tell you the exact number, it's technically an NDA thing.

And the number can and does change between labs. The exact number has no significance, anyways. If you know how to configure 5 routers, you can configure 7 or 10!

Danilo Dy Fri, 12/14/2007 - 19:45


The ideal number is 10 routers and 4 switches (1 x 3550 and 3 x 3560). Also include one frame relay switch.

You also need a workbook. Without it, its like having a ferrari but no fuel to run it.



Ashraf Amin Sun, 12/16/2007 - 11:44

•3725 series routers - IOS 12.4 mainline - Advanced Enterprise Services

•3825 series routers - IOS 12.4 mainline - Advanced Enterprise Services

•Catalyst 3550 series switches running IOS version 12.2 - IP Services

•Catalyst 3560 Series switches running IOS version 12.2 - Advanced IP Services


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