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Jan 25th, 2008

Welcome to the Cisco Networking Professionals Ask the Expert conversation. This is an opportunity to learn about all the new capabilities of Cisco Unity Express with Cisco expert Ashwin Venkatesan. Ashwin has been with Cisco for more than seven years. As a lead engineer in the engineering group, he is an expert on Cisco Unity Express and Cisco Unified Communications Manager Express. He has worked on architectures that involve Cisco Communications Manager, Cisco Unity, Cisco Unity Connection, and Cisco Integrated Services Routers. He has helped design, deploy, and troubleshoot customer networks ranging from small customer topologies to extensively distributed solutions. He also helps with designs for scalability of the solution, documentation, partner training, and system engineer training. In addition, Ashwin works closely with the Cisco Technical Assistance Center to resolve complex issues.

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vashwin Mon, 01/28/2008 - 09:05


Cisco Unity Express provides messaging and greeting services for increased customer service. For more information about this product please refer to the link provided below. Available as a Network Module or Advanced Integration Module, Cisco Unity Express is a simple addition to Cisco 1861, 2800 Series, UC500 and 3800 Series Routers.

Suleiman.Warsame Sun, 01/27/2008 - 03:29


Is it possible to backup CUE voice messages for later retrieval, and if so how?


vashwin Mon, 01/28/2008 - 08:59

Hi Suleiman ,

Yes it is possible to backup the CUE voicemail messages. The backup up can be performed from either the CUE CLI ( backup category data ) or the CUE GUI to an external FTP server.

barrygrove Sun, 01/27/2008 - 17:31


I have taken over a network with Cisco Call Manager 5.0

I have tenants that have their own companies with my network. I would like to set up the clients Extensions to show the main company phone number when ringing external numbers

Could you help


vashwin Mon, 01/28/2008 - 10:58

Hi Barry,

Is this a CUE integration with CCM 5.0 ?



vashwin Mon, 01/28/2008 - 11:16

Hi Drew,

The images used for the regular CUE (NM and AIM) is different from the images which are used by the CUE module in UC500. The installation procedure still remains the same.



Damian Halloran Sat, 02/02/2008 - 19:19

Hi Ashwin,

Sorry to go back to a post from a few days ago, but I had a couple of questions about upgrading CUE.

First is that the link above goes to localization files for CUE 2.3.4, not new CUE versions.

Is it possible to upgrade? Is there any point upgrading 2.3.4 to a 3. version?

Finally I need to change the localization from US to GB using the CLI on a UC520. Are there instructions for doing this? I'm in Australia and since there is no localization for our region, I need to change the voice announcement from referring to the bottom-right key on a phone from "pound" to "hash", and I'd prefer a British accented voice as well.


Damian Halloran.

vashwin Sat, 02/02/2008 - 19:38

Hi Damian,

For UC500 there is currently only one CUE release available as of now which is The next CUE release for UC500 will be which is planned to available the first week of March. The only option for upgrade to this release ( from the first release ( to do a back up of first , then do a clean install of and then restore this backup.

If you are using then you can use "software install clean ...lang.pkg" and select the desired language.

If you are using then you need to use the CLI "software install add...lang.pkg" to change the language. let me know if you have any questions.

The following document below is a generic document for CUE installations.



Damian Halloran Sun, 02/03/2008 - 05:27

Hi Ashwin,

Tried the instructions but am having no luck.

The steps I took were:

1. Did a clean ftp of cue-vm-lang-pack.

2. When the language selection menu came up I removed en_US, and then selected en_UK,

3. Then tried a clean ftp of cue-vm-en_GB-lang-pack.2.3.4.prt1 but these are the responses I get from the system:

WARNING:: This command will download the necessary software to

WARNING:: complete a clean install. It is recommended that a backup be done

WARNING:: before installing software.

Would you like to continue? [n] y

WARNING:: The package cue-vm-en_GB-lang-pack.2.3.4.prt1 is not found on the system.

WARNING:: An attempt will be made to download this package from the FTP server

WARNING:: However the system has the following packages already downloaded -


WARNING:: If you continue to download the package cue-vm-en_GB-lang-pack.2.3.4.prt1, these packages

WARNING:: will be deleted from the system. Do you want to continue (y/n) ?y

Downloading ftp cue-vm-en_GB-lang-pack.2.3.4.prt1

Bytes downloaded : 22351920 Bytes

Validating package signature ... done

ERROR: Invalid package. Please verify if this is a valid package file.

Where am I going wrong?

Thanks again,


vashwin Sun, 02/03/2008 - 11:15

Hi Damian,

I assume you are doing this on UC500.

Are you using the file cue-vm-en_GB-lang-pack. the UC500 download page.

I am asking because the downloading piece in the output you have provided shows the version as 2.3.4 (cue-vm-en_GB-lang-pack.2.3.4.prt1

) and not



tcekada Fri, 02/08/2008 - 07:54


So I can ONLY run the CUE version that currently ships with the UC500, that is,version I cannot upgrade the CUE version that comes with the U500 to CUE like I would with a regular CUE system??



vashwin Fri, 02/08/2008 - 09:36

Hi Tony,

Yes you can upgrade to when it is released. But for upgrade you would first need to take a back up of , then do a clean install of and then restore this backup . Also to clarify "software install upgrade" is not supported from to Only option for upgrade is clean install in online or offline (boot helper mode) mode. Hope this clarifies your question



sdekooter Mon, 01/28/2008 - 12:33

Hello Aswhin,

We use CUE with CME a lot. One of the issues with IVRs, particular the Call Redirect step, is that there appears to be no way you can use the Busy step because CUE doesn't do anything with the busy message of CME. Are there any plans of better integration between the two products? Is there anything else in the roadmap you can share?

Thanks in advance, keep up the good work.


vashwin Mon, 01/28/2008 - 13:24

Hello Steve,

There is no busy step, but a Busy output in the Call redirect step. If you use the Call redirect step and ccn subsystem sip transfer mode is set to attended or semi-attended , the script will go into the buys output if the other end is busy.

If the transfer mode is blind then we won't go into the busy output, because the call would be transfered from CUE, but if the transfer mode is attended or semi attended we will get the notification that the other end is busy and the call will go into the busy output branch.

sdekooter Mon, 01/28/2008 - 14:05

Thank you for the reply;

I was indeed referring to the Busy output from the Call Redirect step. What do you mean with 'setting the subsystem sip transfer mode to (semi-) attendant?' I was not aware of the ability to configure any 'advanced' sip related info in CUE. But now I see:

NM-CUE(config-sip)# transfer-mode ?

attended Attended transfer using REFER-transfer on connect

blind blind transfer using REFER or bye-also

semi-attended Semi attended transfer using REFER-transfer on Ringing

NM-CUE(config-sip)# transfer-mode

Do you mean this? TAC earlier mentioned SIP REFER/302 not been supported.

vashwin Mon, 01/28/2008 - 14:14

Hi Steve,

Yes, the transfer mode is configured by using the CLI you have mentioned and yes SIP/REFER 302 is supported since CUE 2.3



mudassar.khalid Tue, 01/29/2008 - 16:17

Hi Ashwin,

After workin on IPCCX now i am moving to CME. So am new to it. grasp many ideas but need to know about the compatibility of IOS and CME software. I found only one CME c2800nm-ipvoicek9-mz.124-4.T6 file in a working lab envoirnment. No other or saperate file of any IOS Ver in Flash. Would you please explain the relationship between IOS and CME and about the compatibility and the interoperatibility of the two?

vashwin Tue, 01/29/2008 - 21:11

Hello Mudassar,

CME is embedded in the Cisco IOS software and provides call processing for Cisco Unified IP phones. This solution enables the large portfolio of Cisco access and integrated services routers to deliver a comprehensive set of features used by business customers. More information can be found in the link below.

Cisco Unified CME and Cisco IOS Software Version Compatibility Matrix is provided in the link below.

oayazbekov Tue, 01/29/2008 - 22:49

Hi Ashwin,

For example, our company has central office with server running Cisco Unified CallManager 5.0, and we have several remote branch offices, where we want to use Cisco Unified Communications 500 Series running Cisco Unified Communications Manager Express 4.2. We want to connect the Cisco Unified Communications 500 Series to the central office and all calls will be processed by the Cisco Unified CallManager 5.0. Is it possible? If no, why? And what can you suggest?



vashwin Wed, 01/30/2008 - 10:53

Hi Olzhas,

This cannot be accomplished by using UC500 as it is not positioned for branch office solutions. You can use ISR c1861 for these deployments.



pvishnuprasadmallya Wed, 01/30/2008 - 17:04


I just wanted to know abt the cisco approved training institute at hyderbad. please provide me a address of the same.

skint Wed, 01/30/2008 - 17:43


I have a two part question. The first is directed at upgrading the CUE system. So far, I have been unable to complete a 'software install upgrade' on all systems but one. Even an upgrade from 3.0.2 to 3.0.3 required a clean install. Will there be better support for in place upgrades in the future?

The second question is whether CUE editor will support the silent digit collection, which is part of the both the built in scripts and the built in CUE Script editor (which can be somewhat limited).



I have 3 questions for you.

Can I determine the CUE version running for a show tech-support on the router that the CUE NM is installed? If not how do I determine the version that is installed and running?

Is the script editor version specific to the CUE version installed? I know on IPCC that you need to user the same script editor version that the IPCC is running.



vashwin Thu, 01/31/2008 - 09:10

Hi Dave,

Show tech support on IOS will not provide the CUE version . If you want to see the CUE version running from IOS side you can issue the CLI "service-module service-engine status" CLI which will tell you the CUE version. This will also tell you if the CUE module is an NM or an AIM.

Yes the script editor is specific to the CUE version installed. For each CUE release we do have a seperate editor.

Hope this helps,



vashwin Thu, 01/31/2008 - 09:22

Hi Ryan,

Yes software install upgrade is not available for all releases. Since 3.0.2 and 3.0.3 are maintenance releases of CUE 3.0 there is no upgrade path between them . The only option here is to do a backup, then do a clean install on the system and perform the restore and yes there is a plan for better upgrade paths. In general upgrade paths are from one major release to another majore release

ronigeorge Thu, 01/31/2008 - 09:33

I have CCME installation. The customer need to get a beep sound while the call is picked up and talking is going on. This is requirement for Security Reasons. All the calls are recorded using CallRex software. The beep sound in between in constant intervals is required for the customer to alert the caller. Can anybody tell me whether this is possible in CCME and how to configure this.


Paolo Bevilacqua Thu, 01/31/2008 - 09:47


I don't want to preempt Ashwin but I understand that CCME has no support to insert a beep in a conversation. However, I think I would be able to develop a custom TCL/IVR script that does that. If you are interested, please contact me at the address present in my profile.

ronigeorge Sat, 02/02/2008 - 03:04

Are you sure that this is not possible in CCME and is possible CCM. What can be done to insert a beep during the conversation ? Can you help me in doing this.

vashwin Sat, 02/02/2008 - 20:09

Hi Roni,

You can use the live record feature with Cisco Unity Express (CUE) to record conversations. This conversation is stored as a message in the mailbox. The playing of the announcement or beep is under the control of Cisco Unity Express. For more information on configuring Live Record feature please refer to the link below.

Hope this helps.



gaattila Thu, 02/07/2008 - 08:48


According to the compatibility matrix, CUE is not supported by CM4.3.

Is it possible to integrate Unity Express with this CM version, technicaly?

Which CUE release will officially support 4.3?

Thank you.



vashwin Thu, 02/07/2008 - 08:53

Hi Attila,

Currently CCM 4.3 is not supported with any CUE release. Yes techinically it is possible to integrate this version with CUE. There is no plan at the moment to support CCM 4.3.



scherian@ Thu, 02/07/2008 - 14:33

We have Unity 4.05 integrated with exchange 2003 and would like to know if I reply back to the Unity Messaging System account (Unity_) which is a surrogate sender for messages from unidentified callers (external callers and internal callers without a subscriber account such as a conference room or common area phones)where would the messages go since there is nothing found on the inbox or a undeliverable message of the Unity_ account. This account on the AD is disabled so we couldn't confirm if there are any rules by default to drop/delete emails sent to this account.

If someone can confirm the default behavior of this account Unity_ in the context of handling emails when someone manually sends a mail to it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.


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