Recommended Antenna 1242AG

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Feb 2nd, 2008
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I currently have a 2 - 2.2dbi dipole antenna connected to a Cisco 1242AG AP. The AP is mounted on the ceiling in the first floor center of the warehouse where there are many boxes and metal pallet racks. The signal is above average on the first floor but on the second floor it is kind of weak. Is it better to use a higher dbi antenna such as (AIR-ANT2485P-R) patch wall mount 8.5 dbi or should I use the 5GHz which might be better in a warehouse environment.


Thanks in advance

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Rob Huffman Sat, 02/02/2008 - 13:36
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Hi Nelson,


I think the choice of a new Antenna is a good one and will improve the coverage. I would however, tend to think adding a second AP for the second floor level would be much better :) You do run the risk of making the first floor worse when changing the Antenna.


Hope this helps!

Rob

yipster222 Sat, 02/02/2008 - 14:14
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Hi Rob,


Can run 1 2.2dbi Dipole antenna and 1 8.5dbi Patch Wall mount antenna at the same time?



Rob Huffman Sat, 02/02/2008 - 16:19
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Hi Nelson,


This is not supported :( Have a close look at the attached docs (especially the Golf Course Case Study);


The use of two Antennas on these AP's is used for "Diversity Mode" and won't change the stated transmit power of the Antenna as only one Transmits at any given time. Here is an explanation for the use of two Antennas :)


This describes the use of 2 **Identical Antennas in "Diversity" Mode;


The purpose of diversity is to overcome multipath reflections. Diversity antennas that share the same physical housing are placed at an optimum distance apart. The maker of the particular antenna determines that distance based on the characteristics of the antenna. When you use a pair of antennas with matching characteristics to provide diversity for cell coverage in your facility, the guideline is to put those matched antennas at a distance apart from each other that is equal to a multiple of the wavelength of the frequency that is being transmitted. The 2.4 GHz wavelength is approximately 4.92 inches. Therefore, to support diversity on a 2.4 GHz radio with two separate antennas, the antennas should be spaced approximately 5 inches apart. The antenna pair could also be spaced at multiples of 5 inches, but the distance between should not exceed 4 multiples: reflected waves farther apart than that are likely to be so distorted and different in delay spread that the radio could not work with them.Because each antenna is selected by itself, both antennas must have the same radiation characteristics and be positioned to provide similar cell coverage.


**** Two antennas connected to the same access point must not be used to cover two different cells.****


From this good doc;


Multipath and Diversity


http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk722/tk809/technologies_tech_note09186a008019f646.shtml



A diversity antenna system can be compared to a switch that selects one antenna or another, never both at the same time. The radio in receive mode will continually switch between antennas listening for a valid radio packet. After the beginning sync of a valid packet is heard, the radio will evaluate the sync signal of the packet on one antenna, then switch to the other antenna and evaluate. Then the radio will select the best antenna and use only that antenna for the remaining portion of that packet.

On transmit, the radio will select the same antenna it used the last time it communicated to that given radio. If a packet fails, it will switch to the other antenna and retry the packet.

One caution with diversity, it is not designed for using two antennas covering two different coverage cells. The problem in using it this way is that, if antenna no. 1 is communicating to device no. 1 while device no. 2 (which is in the antenna no. 2 cell) tries to communicate, antenna no. 2 is not connected (due to the position of the switch), and the communication fails. Diversity antennas should cover the same area from only a slightly different location."


Diversity Antenna Systems


Diversity antenna systems are used to overcome a phenomenon known as multipath distortion of multipath fading. It uses two **identical antennas, located a small distance apart, to provide coverage to the same physical area.



From this Antenna reference guide;


http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/wireless/ps469/products_data_sheet09186a008008883b.html


Hope this helps!

Rob



csco10250533 Fri, 02/22/2008 - 04:39
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Hi,


As far as I know the following counts:

- dBi : influences the transmit and reception range capability

- transmit power : influences the transmit range capability


In Europe, there's a maximum allowed transmit power, so you'll have to lower the transmit power when increasing the antenna gain.


So, you could use a different antenna (ie. AIR-ANT2465P-R 6,5dBi), but I think you first need to do a sitesurvey. Maybe the bad coverage is caused by interfering accesspoints. If that's the case, choosing an unused, non-overlapping channel will help a lot.


Hope this helps.


Cheers,


Richard


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