how can we tell if Router has buil tin CSU/DSU in it.

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Jun 22nd, 2008

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How can we tell if Router has buil tin CSU/DSU in it.

I have this problem too.
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Correct Answer by Richard Burts about 8 years 5 months ago

Mahesh

The part numbers that you want to check on are:

2 of WIC-1DSU-T1-V2 (which does have the integrated CSU/DSU)

and maybe VWIC2-2MFT-T1/E1

CCO is http://www.cisco.com

HTH

Rick

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Richard Burts Sun, 06/22/2008 - 13:06

mahesh

There are a couple of ways that you can go at the question of how to tell if the router has a built in CSU/DSU. Perhaps the easiest is to look at the connector on the serial card. If the connector is an RJ45 (like Ethernet) then the card has built in CSU/DSU. If the connector is the smart serial connector or the 60 pin connector then it uses an external CSU/DSU.

Or you could do the command show diag. This will identify the type of card in the router. Then you could look on CCO for information about that card and whether it has built in CSU/DSU or not.

HTH

Rick

mahesh18 Sun, 06/22/2008 - 14:44

Hi rick ,

thanks for reply i did sh diag and got lot of information like output is

sh diag

Slot 1:

Ethernet Port adapter, 4 ports

Port adapter is analyzed

Port adapter insertion time 12w5d ago

EEPROM contents at hardware discovery:

Hardware revision 1.14 Board revision A0

Serial number 16402685 Part number 73-1556-08

FRU Part Number PA-4E=

Test history 0xE RMA number 00-00-00

EEPROM format version 1

EEPROM contents (hex):

0x00: 01 02 01 0E 00 FA 48 FD 49 06 14 08 0E 00 00 00

0x10: 50 00 00 00 00 03 24 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF

0x20: FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF

0x30: FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF

Slot 2:

BRI (S/T) Port adapter, 8 ports

Port adapter is analyzed

Port adapter insertion time 12w5d ago

EEPROM contents at hardware discovery:

Hardware revision 1.1 Board revision A0

Serial number 31909312 Part number 73-2194-03

FRU Part Number PA-8B-S/T=

Test history 0x0 RMA number 00-00-00

EEPROM format version 1

EEPROM contents (hex):

0x00: 01 3E 01 01 01 E6 E5 C0 49 08 92 03 00 00 00 00

0x10: 50 00 00 00 05 02 24 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF

0x20: FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF

0x30: FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF

Slot 3:

Mx serial (X.21) Port adapter, 8 ports

Port adapter is analyzed

Port adapter insertion time 12w5d ago

EEPROM contents at hardware discovery:

Hardware revision 1.13 Board revision A0

Serial number 4468224 Part number 73-1582-05

FRU Part Number PA-8T-X21=

Test history 0x7 RMA number 07-61-80

EEPROM format version 1

EEPROM contents (hex):

0x00: 01 0E 01 0D 00 44 2E 00 49 06 2E 05 07 07 3D 50

0x10: 50 00 00 00 97 03 26 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF

0x20: FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF

0x30: FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF

Slot 4:

IMA WAN E1 Port adapter, 8 ports

Port adapter is analyzed

Port adapter insertion time 12w5d ago

EEPROM contents at hardware discovery:

Hardware revision 1.0 Board revision B0

Serial number 27105153 Part number 73-3611-02

FRU Part Number PA-IMA-E1=

Test history 0xB RMA number 12-33-73

EEPROM format version 1

EEPROM contents (hex):

FF FF FF

Slot 5:

ATM WAN E3+ Port adapter, 1 port

Port adapter is analyzed

Port adapter insertion time 12w5d ago

EEPROM contents at hardware discovery:

Hardware Revision : 1.0

PCB Serial Number : JAE063605E3

Part Number : 73-8194-01

Board Revision : A0

RMA Test History : 00

RMA Number : 0-0-0-0

RMA History : 00

Deviation Number : 0-0

Product (FRU) Number : PA-A6-E3=

Top Assy. Part Number : 800-21768-01

CLEI Code :

EEPROM format version 4

EEPROM contents (hex):

FF FF FF FF FF FF

Slot 6:

Mx serial (X.21) Port adapter, 8 ports

Port adapter is analyzed

Port adapter insertion time 12w5d ago

EEPROM contents at hardware discovery:

Hardware revision 1.14 Board revision B0

Serial number 21900453 Part number 73-1582-06

FRU Part Number PA-8T-X21=

Test history 0x10 RMA number 02-24-91

what shoul di look in this output?

Jon Marshall Sun, 06/22/2008 - 15:07

Mahesh

You are interested in the FRU part number eg.

in slot 1

FRU Part Number PA-4E=

in slot 2

FRU Part Number PA-8B-S/T=

etc..

Attached is a link to a pdf on 7200 cards which yOu may find useful.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps341/prod_white_paper0900aecd8023dee3.pdf

You can also do individual searches on Cisco site for each of the part numbers for further details.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps341/prod_white_paper0900aecd8023dee3.pdf

Jon

mahesh18 Sun, 06/22/2008 - 16:00

Hi jon,

i have this router

Cisco 3825 (revision 1.0) with 225280K/36864K bytes of memory.

Processor board ID FCZ1005718S

2 Gigabit Ethernet interfaces

4 Serial interfaces

2 Serial(sync/async) interfaces

2 Channelized E1/PRI ports

2 Virtual Private Network (VPN) Modules

DRAM configuration is 64 bits wide with parity enabled.

479K bytes of NVRAM.

62720K bytes of ATA System CompactFlash (Read/Write)

Configuration register is 0x2102

also i did

sh diag

Slot 0:

C3825 Mother board 1GE(TX,SFP),1GE(TX), integrated VPN and 4W Port adapter, 8 ports

Port adapter is analyzed

Port adapter insertion time unknown

Onboard VPN : FW ver01100200

EEPROM contents at hardware discovery:

PCB Serial Number : FOC10024K4P

Hardware Revision : 1.0

Top Assy. Part Number : 800-23087-01

Board Revision : A0

Deviation Number : 81879

Fab Version : 06

RMA Test History : 00

RMA Number : 0-0-0-0

RMA History : 00

Processor type : 61

Hardware date code : 20060117

Chassis Serial Number : FCZ1005718S

Chassis MAC Address : 0016.c79a.e4b0

MAC Address block size : 32

CLEI Code : IPMEY10BRA

Product (FRU) Number : CISCO3825

Part Number : 73-4021-06

Version Identifier : V01

EEPROM format version 4

EEPROM contents (hex):

0x00: 04 FF C1 8B 46 4F 43 31 30 30 32 34 4B 34 50 40

0x10: 04 2A 41 01 00 C0 46 03 20 00 5A 2F 01 42 41 30

0x20: 88 00 01 3F D7 02 06 03 00 81 00 00 00 00 04 00

0x30: 09 61 83 01 32 17 D5 C2 8B 46 43 5A 31 30 30 35

0x40: 37 31 38 53 C3 06 00 16 C7 9A E4 B0 43 00 20 C6

0x50: 8A 49 50 4D 45 59 31 30 42 52 41 CB 8F 43 49 53

0x60: 43 4F 33 38 32 35 20 20 20 20 20 20 82 49 0F B5

0x70: 06 89 56 30 31 20 D9 02 40 C1 FF FF FF FF FF FF

WIC Slot 0:

Serial 2T (12in1)

Hardware revision 1.0 Board revision B0

Serial number 34641521 Part number 800-03181-02

FRU Part Number WIC-2T=

Test history 0x0 RMA number 00-00-00

Connector type PCI

EEPROM format version 1

EEPROM contents (hex):

0x20: 01 12 01 00 02 10 96 71 50 0C 6D 02 00 00 00 00

0x30: 58 00 00 00 06 02 15 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF

WIC Slot 1:

E1 (2 port) Multi-Flex Trunk WAN daughter card

Hardware revision 1.0 Board revision D0

Serial number 34567976 Part number 800-04479-03

FRU Part Number VWIC-2MFT-E1=

Test history 0x0 RMA number 00-00-00

Connector type PCI

EEPROM format version 1

EEPROM contents (hex):

0x20: 01 23 01 00 02 0F 77 28 50 11 7F 03 00 00 00 00

0x30: 68 00 00 00 06 01 09 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF

AIM Module in slot: 0

PCB Serial Number : FOC09504VXZ

Hardware Revision : 1.0

Top Assy. Part Number : 800-24799-01

Board Revision : D0

Deviation Number : 0

Fab Version : 03

RMA Test History : 00

RMA Number : 0-0-0-0

RMA History : 00

CLEI Code : CNP5FFNAAA

Product (FRU) Number : AIM-VPN/EPII-PLUS

Version Identifier : NA

EEPROM format version 4

EEPROM contents (hex):

49 2D 50 4C 55 53 89

FF FF FF FF FF FF FF

so should i lkko for FRU in one of these slots????????

mahesh18 Sun, 06/22/2008 - 16:02

Hi rick,

Can we user sh ver command to check if router has

built in CSUor not?

jerry_best Sun, 06/22/2008 - 17:42

Hi,

I have also so many CSU and DSU's in my network. Actually i have to remove all the CSU & DSU's is there any other product or any other router is available so i can terminate my all link on that box and remove all the CSU & DSU's.

Thanks in Advace,

Jerry

Richard Burts Sun, 06/22/2008 - 18:33

Jerry

If I am understanding correctly you have multiple routers in your network and there are many external CSU/DSUs in your network. And you want to replace the external CSU/DSUs with internal CSU/DSUs. There are certainly many routers that will support serial cards with internal CSU/DSUs.

Without knowing more about the layout of your network and knowing what routers you currently deploy we can not tell how many of those routers might support internal CSU/DSU if you replace the serial card and how many routers you would need to replace to get routers that would support internal CSU/DSU.

HTH

Rick

Richard Burts Sun, 06/22/2008 - 18:21

mahesh

From your show version, here are your interfaces:

2 Gigabit Ethernet interfaces

4 Serial interfaces

2 Serial(sync/async) interfaces

2 Channelized E1/PRI ports

This does not provide any insight about whether the CSU/DSU is internal or external.

I started to go through the output of show diag and comment on the card types:

WIC Slot 0:

FRU Part Number WIC-2T=

WIC Slot 1:

FRU Part Number VWIC-2MFT-E1=

and then I realized that in response to my post you posted the output of show diag from one router and in response to a post from Jon that you posted output from show diag on a different router. That makes explaining things more difficult.

If you take the card identifies (VWIC-2MFT-E1=) you should be able to find references on CCO that will tell whether it has internal CSU/DSU or external.

HTH

Rick

mahesh18 Sat, 07/12/2008 - 18:50

Hi Rick

i have this router that has two internal

CSU.here is info for router

Cisco 2821 (2 Gigabit Ethernet interfaces

2 Serial interfaces

2 ATM interfaces

2 Channelized T1/PRI ports

1 Virtual Private Network (VPN) Module

1 ATM/Voice AIM

memory.

62720K bytes of ATA CompactFlash (Read/Write)

her eis output from sh diag

h diag

Slot 0:

C2821 Motherboard with 2GE and integrated VPN Port adapter, 2 ports

Port adapter is analyzed

Port adapter insertion time unknown

Onboard VPN : v2.2.0

EEPROM contents at hardware discovery:

PCB Serial Number : FOC11014NXT

Hardware Revision : 1.0

Top Assy. Part Number : 800-26921-02

Board Revision : A0

Deviation Number : 0

Fab Version : 03

RMA Test History : 00

RMA Number : 0-0-0-0

RMA History : 00

Processor type : 87

Hardware date code : 20070107

Chassis Serial Number : FTX1103A0H9

Chassis MAC Address : 0019.30a6.d8c0

MAC Address block size : 32

CLEI Code : COM3D00BRA

Product (FRU) Number : CISCO2821

Part Number : 73-8853-04

Version Identifier : V03

EEPROM format version 4

EEPROM contents (hex):

WIC Slot 0:

FT1 PMC4351

Hardware Revision : 1.0

PCB Serial Number : FOC07291NCW

Part Number : 73-8346-03

Board Revision : A0

RMA Test History : 00

RMA Number : 0-0-0-0

RMA History : 00

Deviation Number : 0-0

Product (FRU) Number : WIC-1DSU-T1-V2

Top Assy. Part Number : 800-22193-01

CLEI Code : IP4I380GAA

EEPROM format version 4

EEPROM contents (hex):

WIC Slot 1:

FT1 PMC4351

Hardware Revision : 1.0

PCB Serial Number : FOC07291P0T

Part Number : 73-8346-03

Board Revision : A0

RMA Test History : 00

RMA Number : 0-0-0-0

RMA History : 00

Deviation Number : 0-0

Product (FRU) Number : WIC-1DSU-T1-V2

Top Assy. Part Number : 800-22193-01

CLEI Code : IP4I380GAA

EEPROM format version 4

EEPROM contents (hex):

WIC Slot 2:

VWIC2-2MFT-T1/E1 - 2-Port RJ-48 Multiflex Trunk - T1/E1

Hardware Revision : 0.0

Top Assy. Part Number : 800-22629-05

Board Revision : B0

Deviation Number : 0

Fab Version : 04

PCB Serial Number : FOC1120341S

RMA Test History : 00

RMA Number : 0-0-0-0

RMA History : 00

Product (FRU) Number : VWIC2-2MFT-T1/E1

Version Identifier : V01

EEPROM format version 4

EEPROM contents (hex):

AIM ATM: 0

ATM AIM

AIM Module in slot: 0

Hardware Revision : 1.0

Top Assy. Part Number : 800-06558-06

Board Revision : B0

Deviation Number : 0

Fab Version : 07

PCB Serial Number : FOC11114VBE

RMA Test History : 00

RMA Number : 0-0-0-0

RMA History : 00

Product (FRU) Number : AIM-ATM

Version Identifier : V01

CLEI Code : CNUIALRAAA

EEPROM format version 4

EEPROM contents (hex):

Can u help me how we identify that it has two built in csu and dsu?

Correct Answer
Richard Burts Sun, 07/13/2008 - 17:32

Mahesh

The part numbers that you want to check on are:

2 of WIC-1DSU-T1-V2 (which does have the integrated CSU/DSU)

and maybe VWIC2-2MFT-T1/E1

CCO is http://www.cisco.com

HTH

Rick

mahesh18 Sat, 07/12/2008 - 19:18

Hi rick,

how r you?

you said check on CCO which website is this?

thanks

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