Cisco Announces New CCNA's

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Jun 23rd, 2008

Hey Everyone,

I have just found out that Cisco will be announcing new CCNA's for Security, Voice and Wireless. You have to already be a CCNA certified though to become a CCNA in Security, Voice or Wireless. But I think its good that Cisco is going in this direction.

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Ross.

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jim_berlow Tue, 06/24/2008 - 07:56

This is great news! I've been wondering when Cisco would recognize that a CCNA was just too "general" for a person who wanted to do voice. The only downside I see is that these new CCNA concentrations will require a valid CCNA (essentially they are adding another test to the CCVP). My opinion is that Cisco should have created these CCNA concentrations without prerequisites for each track.

I wish that Cisco would develop a "real" track for storage, though. The recommended path there is CCNA -> CCNP -> CCIE Storage. Give me a break - while CCNA & CCNP topics are useful, they really don't prepare a person for work in storage (or the CCIE storage for that matter).

Good first move, though!!

Jim

rahmanya17 Tue, 06/24/2008 - 17:43

Hi jim,

I think the CCNA prerequisite for obtaining any of the CCNA concentration is a very valid point! it will give candidate more incentive to acquire the CCNA 640-802. think of it this way! you need to learn your trade before you start to specialize in a specific filed and the only way to do this is to have a fundamental knowledge and grasp of the Networking essentials! then you will find that it will be easy for you to branch out to any of these specific concentrations. I will give you a typical example with my self! I've just obtained my CCNA and when i was studying for it, one of the book i read actually focused on the fundamentals of voice service while configuring switches, these are knowledge you need to take into account when preparing for the CCNA concentration certifications!

I think it's a good step in the right direction, how ever what then happens to the CCVP? i don't think you can jump from a CCNA Voice to take the CCVP cert with out a valid CCNP? any one's view on this is welcome. I'll guess if one want to become a Voice professional the the path would be thus: CCNA->CCNA Voice->CCNP->CCVP any suggestion would be welcome.

'rahman

celticfc2007 Wed, 06/25/2008 - 01:13

Hi Rah,

The CCNA Voice will become a prerequisite for the CCVP, same as CCNA Security for the CCSP. This comes into effect sometime in 2009. So between now and then, you only require a CCNA to pursue the professional level certs.

On the subject of concentrations, I look forward to the new tracks, its another opportunity to learn. Theres a lot of job openings at entry level for voice, and CCNA Voice would be a great place to get started.

HTH

rahmanya17 Wed, 06/25/2008 - 14:07

Hi celticfc!

Thanks for your post ! i've looked it up on the certification support web! My intention was to pursue my certification path in the traditional fashion of Routing->Switching->security->ONT and then a CCVP (as that was my ultimate aim! but then this new development I suppose will give candidates who are pursuing Voice as area of speciality to incentive to want to take the BSCI, BCMSN etc any more since then can just go straight to CCVP after CCNA!

rscarborough63 Tue, 06/24/2008 - 18:15

This is really good news. I was just talking with a CCVP today on my job about all this.

I have a telecom background and studying for CCNA. What will this new CCNA voice allow you to be able to do? Will it cover stuff to get you entry level Cisco VOIP positions and how does it fit in on the CCVP path? Can you go from CCNA Voice to CCVP?

jamesfang98 Wed, 06/25/2008 - 05:56

CCNA with different branch will be good for people to start building up different specialty.

However, and if CCNA pre -> CCNA Voice -> CCVP -> CCIE voice is the only path to achieve prefossional certificates in voice path, then if want to go for R/S path, another CCNA R/S needed. What a big change and big chance for Cisco to prompte CCNA xxx!!

I think, to be favor of real world - many people have many hands on different fields (like: r/s, voice, security, storage) and can brige knowledge smoothly, only one CCNA is needed for all professional path. People don't want to pay extra to approach higher certificates.

If variant CCNA come to surface, then general CCNA should still exist as now.

My 2-cent.

dlillis65 Wed, 06/25/2008 - 14:21

Ok here is my thought. (probably not even worth 2 cents!)

I dont see the real purpose of adding yet ANOTHER exam to become CCVP. If you want to learn the voice track then thats what the CCVP exams are for. Why add another test to prove that? I am sure it is a big money maker for Cisco and we all know it is about the almighty dollar. Everytime you turn around they are retiring exams or adding ones. It is just ridiculous.

celticfc2007 Thu, 06/26/2008 - 01:23

Hi David,

Everything's about money =)

But seriously, I think its a great step forward for those interested in specializing in security or voice. It will be much easier for those wishing to get fundamental experience in these fields with a credential at the CCNA level. What I mean is, do you want a CCVP or CCSP working for you, that doesn't really have much experience, 'cos they just got certified? But given the new concentrations are focused at the CCNA level, it eliminates this problem for the most part.

Just my 2 cents =)

rahmanya17 Wed, 06/25/2008 - 13:57

The prerequisites for CCVP are a Valid CCNA Voice or a CCNA (until June 24th, 2009).

so the answer to your question is yes you can go from CCNA Voice to CCVP, and CCNA prerequisite for CCVP is only valid up until June 24th 2009, then you would not be able to go from CCNA to CCVP! more info on the cisco certification path web below

http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/le2/le37/le65/learning_certification_type_home.html

all the best!

HTH

celticfc2007 Thu, 06/26/2008 - 01:17

Hi Rah,

I'm thinking the same. CCNA Voice for me next, only thing is, the cost of equipment for the CCNA Voice is kind of pricey. I might pursue CCNA Security first, simply because of equipment cost.

Good luck!

rahmanya17 Thu, 06/26/2008 - 14:30

Hi celticfc,

it's kind of cool to take the CCNA voice! but why not just take the advantage of the fact that the 640-802 is still a valid prerequisite for the CCVP cert now and just take the CCVP main cert then maybe you can then say take the CCNA security or what do you think! oh!!!! im kind' of confuse now!!! too many options and so many tracks to the same path! Cisco is driving us Nuts!!! Aggghhrr!!!!!!!!

Any way what ever any1 decides 2 do i guess your current position at work and the way forward would actually determine where next put our money!

all the best

celticfc2007 Thu, 06/26/2008 - 15:09

Hi Rah,

I'm interested in Voice, for a few reasons. Its relatively a new technology, compared to Ethernet (lol), there is a high demand for voice techs, and for a lot of networking jobs, your expected to be familiar with Unified Communications etc, not too mention setting up your own phone system is cool =)

As far as the CCVP, its something I want to do, but I think the CCNA Voice is a better option if your new to the voice arena (like me). I think Employer expectations of anyone with a CC*P will be too high, if you don't have the experience to back it up. Also, there's roughly 1 year to become a CCVP with only the CCNA as a prerequisite. I'm sure I could do it in a year, but I'm not in any rush, for me the fun is getting there. Also, when I'm ready to pursue a CC*P, I estimate it will take me 1.5 years, to do it properly.

Btw, I'm still working on my CCNA, I take the ICND2 test either July 14th or July 21st =)

Also, I've been weighing up what to go after next, and I'm leaning toward CCNA Security, because its a more natural progression from the CCNA R/S, but I'm not 100% decided yet, one step at a time.

Cya

rahmanya17 Thu, 06/26/2008 - 18:23

Spot on! Celticfc!

I think you are right on that point! I agree with you that it's a natural progression to go in the route of CCNA Voice b4 taking on the CCVP, I can see where Cisco is coming from now why they introduced this new CCNA xxx! It's cool! we might just have to get down to business then and get a crack on the CCAN voice preparation. When is the curriculum/ exam topic due to be released? and when does the exam officially starts?.

I wish you all the best in your ICND2 exam! I just got my CCNA last week my self. I went for the one exam option instead (640-802). What material are you using for your ICND2? I reckon you should try Bryant's material! he has some very good study guide prepared specially for the two exam approach to CCNA (I used his guide for my exam and it was cool! but my mail study Guide was Todd Lammle's by sybex and my CCNA academy guides from cisco press! and having gone through the whole materials plus the labs it helped me alot!

I wish you all the best mate! 'Cant wait for you to get your CCNA so we can take on CCNA Voice 2gether! It will be cool to have a companion!

'ciao!

rahan

celticfc2007 Thu, 06/26/2008 - 23:43

Hi Rah,

I'm using Ciscopress ICND1 & 2 Official Exam Cert Guide, Ciscopress CCNA Portable Command guide (which I'm getting more use out of, now that I'm working on ICND2), and Chris Bryant's Subnetting Book (to keep my math skills fast) CBTNuggets ICND2 and my upgraded home lab.

The Voice books come out in October, but the Security books are out now. There's a lot more info as far as whats covered, if you check out the new site.

Thanks for wishing me well =)

rcbradford Thu, 06/26/2008 - 15:39

Hello,

Does anyone know if certifing yourelf with one of the new CCNA X exams will recertify you as a full CCNA for an additional 3 years?

celticfc2007 Fri, 06/27/2008 - 02:48

Hi Rob,

Judging by this:

"CCNA certifications are valid for three years. To recertify, either pass the current CCNA exam, or pass the ICND2 exam, or pass any 642 professional level or Cisco Specialist exam (excluding Sales Specialist exams), or pass a current CCIE written exam."

It doesn't appear that the new CCNA concentrations will recertify the CCNA itself.

HTH

ascoolasice Thu, 06/26/2008 - 19:06

Hello all,

I just read about this. I was going to start on the CCVP cert, but this changes all. I'm about to take on my second CCNP exam (BSCI), then work on the ONT with Qos from the CCVP path. I don't know if i'll be able to complete the CCVP by the deadline. I guess I'll go for CCNA voice instead while still studying for the CCVP. Does anyone know if they'll allow you complete the CCVP if you've already started the CCVP course, or will you have to revert back to taking CCNA voice before the CCVP can be obtained?

Thanks

celticfc2007 Fri, 06/27/2008 - 02:45

Hi ice,

If you don't complete the CCVP by June 24, 2009, you will require a CCNA Voice to obtain a CCVP.

HTH

jlhainy Fri, 06/27/2008 - 08:33

I am not sure I can completely understand why Cisco is doing this. I mean, they already have specialized certs, so why create specialized CCNA's? Maybe because they have focused CCIE's and focused Professional Level certs that they want the same focus at the associate level.

While studying for my CCNP, I have found that it really is a mixture of topics that would help one become a well rounded network professional.

It has routing & switching, which is really the base for everything. It has security and it has a little bit of qos & wireless.

In the job that I do, that cert is my best fit because I do all of those functions. We do not have the staff to "specialize" in any one area. Although it would be nice to focus on specialized areas, if one becomes too focused, then they may loose site on the bigger picture. I guess it just depends on what your job is and where it takes you.

jlhainy Fri, 06/27/2008 - 12:39

I think that these new ccna certs are... mis named.

we have ccna, ccnp

instead of ccna-voice why not ccva, ccsa & ccwa to match the ccsp & ccvp. the xxnx certs are really the generic certs and the others are just more specialized.

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