Power arrangement on Cisco 7604 - 2 DC PSU's

tony.faulkner · ‎10-02-2008

We have a cisco 7604 with 2 x 2700W DC power modules (main + redundant). Does the redundant unit present a load? So for example we have the main unit connected to 60 Amp fused 48v DC supply. If I jumper this supply to the redundant unit will I need to increase the fuse size and possibly the cable size?

Giuseppe Larosa · ‎10-03-2008

Hello Tony,

If I've understood correctly you would like to connect both power supplies to the same external DC supply.

First of all from a redundancy point of view this is not a good idea.

depending on power management strategy only one power supply of both provide power to chassis and linecards.

you can check this with

show power

how much current is needed ?

2700 W = 48V * I

I = 56,25 A

the second supply even without a load will draw some current to energize itself.

I don't recommend to do this on permanent basis, it could be acceptable to do it for some time during electrical works:

you don't achieve redundancy in this way

I would just power off the standby PS.

Hope to help

Giuseppe

tony.faulkner · ‎10-03-2008

Thanks Guiseppe,

I have since found the Cisco doc regarding redundant power, and some small print stating the A Battery is connected to PSU1, and B Battery connected to PSU2 (redundant).

Is also says that either PSU should be connected to 2 pairs (-48v and 0v) supplied off the same battery. The question I now have is:-

Is it necessary to connect 2 separately fused pairs per PSU or is it OK to connect 1 pair (fused) and then jumper that to the other pair on the back of the PSU?

Would the jumper option require a larger fuse on the (single) Battery supply (i.e. 2 x 60A = 120A)?

Your help is much appreciated,

Tony

Giuseppe Larosa · ‎10-03-2008

Hello Tony,

separated cables pair and fuse

PSA ============ batteryA

PSB ============ batteryB

otherwise you are connecting them in series and trying to supply

96V on the two in series and you miss redundancy.

Hope to help

Giuseppe

tony.faulkner · ‎10-06-2008

Thanks Guiseppe,

Considering 1 Cisco Power Unit, the options we are looking at are:-

PSUA1 and PSUA2 are the two pairs of terminals on the SAME Power Unit.

PSUA +ve1 ================ BattA +ve == 0v

PSUA -ve1 =====FUSEX====== BattA -ve

PSUA +ve2 ===JUMPER======= PSUA +ve1

PSUA -ve2 ===JUMPER======= PSUA -ve2

So the 2 terminals are in parallel.

+ve ==========[+ve1]===========[+ve2]

| | |

BattA (R=PSUA1) (R=PSUA2)

| | |

-ve ==FUSEX====[-ve1]===========[-ve2]

The Alternative is:-

+ve ==========[+ve1]

| |

BattA (R=PSUA1)

| |

-ve ==FUSEY====[-ve1]

And...

+ve ==========[+ve2]

| |

BattA (R=PSUA2)

| |

-ve ==FUSEY====[-ve2]

Assuming a single feed is fused at 60Amps.

Does FUSE X = 60 Amps or Higher?

Does FUSE Y = 60 Amps?

The problem is that just adding a second power pair will be difficult at the site, so the top is the preferred option.