Solved: High Channel utilization but no RX or TX utilisation

derobbacher · ‎02-19-2009

Hello WLAN experts,

looking at our Top-Ten Access Points statistics, I often see APs with the following Load statistics:

RX Utilisation : 0

TX Utilisation : 0

Channel Utilisation : 18

Do You have any explanation for the high Channel utilisation ?

What is causing this ?

Detailed traffic statistics contain the following figures:

TX Frame count: 380606

RX Frame Count: 77222980

FCS Error Count: 3281837

TX Failed count: 157979

Retry Count: 145735

Noise vs. Channel: -98

Interference: -90

Thank You in advance

George Stefanick · ‎02-21-2009

High utilization can be caused by the following:

High density of access points on channel or co- channel.

Example- excessive access points on the same channel that contribute to interference, beacons, probe responses and probe request. All of which takes up medium.

Excessive use of SSIDs

if you broadcast for example 10 SSIDS you increase your management over head as above - broadcast, probe responses, and request. I did a study and found that by adding a single SSID you could increase over head by 3-7% (w/ 1Mb frames)

Low data rates enabled (1/2 mb)

By standard your managment frames (broadcast) are transmitted on the lowest basic PHY rate. If you enable 1/2Mb frames you are allowing these to go out in a very slow manner. Disabling 1/2 rates you can improve utilization significantly. In most you can see utilzation at 40-50% with no traffic be lowered to 5%.

High TX power is always a big problem. If your APs are at 100mW. They are far extending and could be adding to other same channel APs utilization. So those beacons are going further and clients are responding to them .. smaller cells are better ...

And of course data transmissions...

I would use a protocol analyzer like airmagnet. The controllers dont always do a good job in showing utilization.

I hope you find this helpful ...

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dennischolmes · ‎02-19-2009

Channel utilization can occur from broadcast beacons as well as data transmitted and received. I be you have 1 and 2mb datarates enabled on your controllers.

Victor900502 · ‎05-25-2016

Hi :

Do you know how can I disable 1/2 rate via PI or WLC ?

Thanks a lot.

TM13 · ‎05-30-2016

Hi, I see 50 clients connected to 1 AP, sounds ridiculous i know, but when i check Channel Utilization = 40%, AP uplink is around 10Mb/5Mb and our computers couldn't download 10MB file from our file server, is that related with this? how to measure and check it? we have PI and WLC but still couldn't find related stuff

Scott Fella · ‎05-30-2016

Check the channel utilization while downloading the file, but look at it from the controller CLI (show ap auto-rf 802.11a <ap name>) you can also look at the 802.11b. This command will show you the utilization real time and you will see how downloading a file can also increase the utilization. This is why you need to determine how many clients can connect and still have good user experience. The long time recommend number is 25, but again, it will depend on the clients and their activity on the wireless. I have found the 30 is a safe number before the experience starts to fall fast.

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TM13 · ‎06-02-2016

These are what i am getting

Number Of Slots.................................. 2
AP Name..........................................
MAC Address...................................... cc:ef:48:20:72:0d
Slot ID........................................ 1
Radio Type..................................... RADIO_TYPE_80211a
Sub-band Type.................................. All
Noise Information
Noise Profile................................ PASSED
Channel 36................................... -97 dBm
Channel 40................................... -96 dBm
Channel 44................................... -92 dBm
Channel 48................................... -93 dBm
Channel 52................................... -98 dBm
Channel 56................................... -97 dBm
Channel 60................................... -96 dBm
Channel 64................................... -95 dBm
Channel 149.................................. -94 dBm
Channel 153.................................. -94 dBm
Channel 157.................................. -92 dBm
Channel 161.................................. -93 dBm
Channel 165.................................. -94 dBm

--More-- or (q)uit
Interference Information
Interference Profile......................... PASSED
Channel 36................................... -87 dBm @ 1 % busy
Channel 40................................... -128 dBm @ 0 % busy
Channel 44................................... -128 dBm @ 0 % busy
Channel 48................................... -128 dBm @ 0 % busy
Channel 52................................... -128 dBm @ 0 % busy
Channel 56................................... -128 dBm @ 0 % busy
Channel 60................................... -128 dBm @ 0 % busy
Channel 64................................... -128 dBm @ 0 % busy
Channel 149.................................. -128 dBm @ 0 % busy
Channel 153.................................. -128 dBm @ 0 % busy
Channel 157.................................. -128 dBm @ 0 % busy
Channel 161.................................. -128 dBm @ 0 % busy
Channel 165.................................. -128 dBm @ 0 % busy
Rogue Histogram (20/40/80)
.............................................
Channel 36................................... 3/ 0/ 0
Channel 40................................... 94/ 0/ 0
Channel 44................................... 0/ 0/ 0
Channel 48................................... 0/ 0/ 0
Channel 52................................... 0/ 0/ 0
Channel 56................................... 0/ 0/ 0

--More-- or (q)uit
Channel 60................................... 0/ 0/ 0
Channel 64................................... 0/ 0/ 0
Channel 149.................................. 0/ 0/ 0
Channel 153.................................. 0/ 0/ 0
Channel 157.................................. 0/ 0/ 0
Channel 161.................................. 0/ 0/ 0
Channel 165.................................. 0/ 0/ 0
Load Information
Load Profile................................. FAILED
Receive Utilization.......................... 0 %
Transmit Utilization......................... 0 %
Channel Utilization.......................... 3 %
Attached Clients............................. 24 clients
Coverage Information
Coverage Profile............................. PASSED
Failed Clients............................... 0 clients
Client Signal Strengths
RSSI -100 dbm................................ 0 clients
RSSI -92 dbm................................ 0 clients
RSSI -84 dbm................................ 0 clients
RSSI -76 dbm................................ 0 clients
RSSI -68 dbm................................ 7 clients
RSSI -60 dbm................................ 9 clients

--More-- or (q)uit
RSSI -52 dbm................................ 6 clients
Client Signal To Noise Ratios
SNR 0 dB.................................. 0 clients
SNR 5 dB.................................. 0 clients
SNR 10 dB.................................. 0 clients
SNR 15 dB.................................. 0 clients
SNR 20 dB.................................. 0 clients
SNR 25 dB.................................. 1 clients
SNR 30 dB.................................. 5 clients
SNR 35 dB.................................. 4 clients
SNR 40 dB.................................. 6 clients
SNR 45 dB.................................. 6 clients
Nearby APs
AP 64:a0:e7:5d:7a:20 slot 1.................. -51 dBm on 161 (10.98.4.43)
AP f0:29:29:ea:fb:50 slot 1.................. -73 dBm on 44 (10.98.4.43)
Radar Information
Channel Assignment Information
Current Channel Average Energy............... -80 dBm
Previous Channel Average Energy.............. -57 dBm
Channel Change Count......................... 22
Last Channel Change Time..................... Sat May 21 06:04:58 2016
Recommended Best Channel..................... 40
RF Parameter Recommendations

--More-- or (q)uit
Power Level.................................. 1
RTS/CTS Threshold............................ 2347
Fragmentation Threshold...................... 2346
Antenna Pattern.............................. 0

Persistent Interference Devices
Class Type Channel DC (%%) RSSI (dBm) Last Update Time
------------------------- ------- ------ ---------- ------------------------
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() >show ap auto-rf 802.11b

Number Of Slots.................................. 2
AP Name..........................................
MAC Address...................................... cc:ef:48:20:72:0d
Slot ID........................................ 0
Radio Type..................................... RADIO_TYPE_80211b/g
Sub-band Type.................................. All
Noise Information
Noise Profile................................ PASSED
Channel 1.................................... -80 dBm
Channel 2.................................... -84 dBm
Channel 3.................................... -71 dBm
Channel 4.................................... -77 dBm
Channel 5.................................... -63 dBm
Channel 6.................................... -87 dBm
Channel 7.................................... -70 dBm
Channel 8.................................... -63 dBm
Channel 9.................................... -83 dBm
Channel 10................................... -90 dBm
Channel 11................................... -88 dBm
Interference Information
Interference Profile......................... PASSED

--More-- or (q)uit
Channel 1.................................... -68 dBm @ 8 % busy
Channel 2.................................... -68 dBm @ 1 % busy
Channel 3.................................... -66 dBm @ 1 % busy
Channel 4.................................... -128 dBm @ 0 % busy
Channel 5.................................... -63 dBm @ 34 % busy
Channel 6.................................... -67 dBm @ 19 % busy
Channel 7.................................... -72 dBm @ 6 % busy
Channel 8.................................... -70 dBm @ 2 % busy
Channel 9.................................... -75 dBm @ 6 % busy
Channel 10................................... -74 dBm @ 15 % busy
Channel 11................................... -75 dBm @ 9 % busy
Load Information
Load Profile................................. FAILED
Receive Utilization.......................... 0 %
Transmit Utilization......................... 4 %
Channel Utilization.......................... 78 %
Attached Clients............................. 24 clients
Coverage Information
Coverage Profile............................. PASSED
Failed Clients............................... 2 clients
Client Signal Strengths
RSSI -100 dbm................................ 0 clients
RSSI -92 dbm................................ 0 clients

--More-- or (q)uit
RSSI -84 dbm................................ 2 clients
RSSI -76 dbm................................ 1 clients
RSSI -68 dbm................................ 1 clients
RSSI -60 dbm................................ 10 clients
RSSI -52 dbm................................ 10 clients
Client Signal To Noise Ratios
SNR 0 dB.................................. 0 clients
SNR 5 dB.................................. 2 clients
SNR 10 dB.................................. 0 clients
SNR 15 dB.................................. 3 clients
SNR 20 dB.................................. 3 clients
SNR 25 dB.................................. 3 clients
SNR 30 dB.................................. 1 clients
SNR 35 dB.................................. 3 clients
SNR 40 dB.................................. 3 clients
SNR 45 dB.................................. 6 clients
Nearby APs
AP 00:1a:30:33:7c:20 slot 0.................. -84 dBm on 11 ()
AP 04:c5:a4:f3:da:00 slot 0.................. -74 dBm on 1 ()
AP 64:a0:e7:5d:7a:20 slot 0.................. -39 dBm on 6 ()
AP 68:bc:0c:f6:6a:20 slot 0.................. -85 dBm on 6 ()
AP 68:bc:0c:f8:5c:70 slot 0.................. -85 dBm on 1 ()
AP 88:f0:77:fc:b8:c0 slot 0.................. -72 dBm on 11 ()

--More-- or (q)uit
AP f0:29:29:ea:fb:50 slot 0.................. -62 dBm on 1 ()
Radar Information
Channel Assignment Information
Current Channel Average Energy............... unknown
Previous Channel Average Energy.............. unknown
Channel Change Count......................... 0
Last Channel Change Time..................... Sat Nov 7 19:42:24 2015
Recommended Best Channel..................... 1
RF Parameter Recommendations
Power Level.................................. 2
RTS/CTS Threshold............................ 2347
Fragmentation Threshold...................... 2346
Antenna Pattern.............................. 0

Persistent Interference Devices
Class Type Channel DC (%%) RSSI (dBm) Last Update Time
------------------------- ------- ------ ---------- ------------------------
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George Stefanick · ‎02-21-2009

High utilization can be caused by the following:

High density of access points on channel or co- channel.

Example- excessive access points on the same channel that contribute to interference, beacons, probe responses and probe request. All of which takes up medium.

Excessive use of SSIDs

if you broadcast for example 10 SSIDS you increase your management over head as above - broadcast, probe responses, and request. I did a study and found that by adding a single SSID you could increase over head by 3-7% (w/ 1Mb frames)

Low data rates enabled (1/2 mb)

By standard your managment frames (broadcast) are transmitted on the lowest basic PHY rate. If you enable 1/2Mb frames you are allowing these to go out in a very slow manner. Disabling 1/2 rates you can improve utilization significantly. In most you can see utilzation at 40-50% with no traffic be lowered to 5%.

High TX power is always a big problem. If your APs are at 100mW. They are far extending and could be adding to other same channel APs utilization. So those beacons are going further and clients are responding to them .. smaller cells are better ...

And of course data transmissions...

I would use a protocol analyzer like airmagnet. The controllers dont always do a good job in showing utilization.

I hope you find this helpful ...

"Satisfaction does not come from knowing the solution, it comes from knowing why." - Rosalind Franklin
___________________________________________________________

Victor900502 · ‎05-25-2016

Hi :

Do you know how can I disable 1/2 rate via PI or WLC ?

Thanks a lot.

George Stefanick · ‎05-25-2016

Hello

under the wirlees tab on the WLC. Left hand side you will see your 2 networks. 802.11bgn and 802.11anac

click on 802.21gbn and hit network. You will see the phy rates where you can disable.

"Satisfaction does not come from knowing the solution, it comes from knowing why." - Rosalind Franklin
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Victor900502 · ‎05-26-2016

Thanks a lot.

For improving the channel utilization, is your suggestion turning of 1Mbps and 2Mbps of 11b or the 1/2 FEC coding like following : ?

In 11ac MCS 0, MCS 1 and MCS 3 are 1/2 rate codes

In 11n this is

MCS 0, 8, 16

MCS 1, 9, 17

MCS 3, 11, 19

George Stefanick · ‎05-26-2016

It's my advice if your deisgn can support higher rates you should disabled everything below 12. Don't mess with other rates. Again, if your deisgn supports it.

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Victor900502 · ‎05-26-2016

Your 12 means "12Mbps", am I right ?

You are not talking about the FEC rate (1/2, 3/4 etc...), right?

George Stefanick · ‎05-26-2016

Yup ! 12 PHY. Don't mess with anything higher ..

I've had a lot of success with 12 supported and 24 mandatory. Rest supported .. Keep in mind you need to insure your RF will support it .. If it doesn't you will create issues for yourself ..

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Victor900502 · ‎05-26-2016

Thanks a lot!

Got it!

George Stefanick · ‎05-26-2016

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