05-08-2009 08:23 PM - edited 03-15-2019 05:55 PM
we have one pub and two subscribers. In case of losing the pub completelyï¼without any chance of recovering it), we may have to convert one of two SUB as PUB to continue with DB update.
I am curious to find out if it's possible and what steps are needed to make it happen.
I am sure PUB DB must be backed up somewhere but what about licensing?
Thanks for any input! It's based on CCM version 4.1
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05-08-2009 09:58 PM
Use BARS to backup PUB and do it regularly.
If you need to change one SUB into PUB, do a full reinstall from scratch of the server and name it as the old PUB (same hostname/ip), then restore backup.
No licensing changes needed, that's only for linux appliances
HTH
java
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05-10-2009 09:34 AM
Hi Eric,
The Hostname change is not supported in CCM Versions prior to CCM 6.1(2):). I have dealt with some "rebels" who defied these threats and regret the fact they did. You can change the IP Address (let me know if you need a doc);
Note: It is not supported to change the hostname on the Cisco CallManager server because the Structured Query Language (SQL) database does not support the hostname change. This is because SQL uses the server name for many of the tables related to Cisco CallManager and exchanges this information as such with the operating system. When SQL server is installed, it binds the database to both the machine and Cisco CallManager server names. If this is changed, the database does not replicate properly since the new Cisco CallManager or machine name is not updated correctly by SQL. **If a hostname change is inevitable, then the entire Cisco CallManager must be rebuilt.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/voicesw/ps556/products_tech_note09186a0080094601.shtml
Prior to Cisco Unified Communications Manager Release 6.1(2), you cannot change the host name of either the publisher node or subscriber node after it is installed. If you must apply a new host name to a server, you can delete the server from Cisco Unified Communications Manager Administration (System > Server) and then reinstall the server with a new hostname. Also, be aware that a DRS backup that you take from a server with a particular hostname cannot be restored on a server (either a publisher or subscriber node) with a different hostname, even after you reinstall that node.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/install/6_1_1/ipchange/ipchg611.html
Changing the Hostname of Cisco Unified Communications Manager Servers
Starting with this release (6.1(2)), you can change the hostname of the first node or any subsequent nodes in the Cisco Unified Communications Manager cluster. You can only change the hostname of the first node from a subsequent node. The Cisco Unified Communications Operating System Administration user interface populates the hostname field on the Ethernet Configuration window and the Publisher Configuration window with the existing values. You can change the IP address or hostname of servers using the set network cluster publisher ip or set network cluster publisher hostname CLI commands.
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Caution Resetting the hostname will cause your system to reboot and you may lose connectivity with the first node and the network. Before attempting to change the hostname of a Cisco Unified Communications Manager server, refer to the Changing the IP Address and Host Name for Cisco Unified Communications Manager Release 6.1(2).
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/rel_notes/6_1_2/cucm-rel_note-612.html#wp401012
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/install/6_1_2/ipchange/ipchg612.html#wp185050
Hope this helps! Cheers!
Rob
05-08-2009 09:58 PM
Use BARS to backup PUB and do it regularly.
If you need to change one SUB into PUB, do a full reinstall from scratch of the server and name it as the old PUB (same hostname/ip), then restore backup.
No licensing changes needed, that's only for linux appliances
HTH
java
if this helps, please rate
05-08-2009 10:42 PM
backup database
install from scratch
update database
05-09-2009 07:55 PM
just curious. if we have to use new hostname and new IP address for the NEW PUB, does it complicate the whole process (restore)?
I know the rest of the SUB must be updated with new ip of the new PUB afterwards
05-10-2009 09:34 AM
Hi Eric,
The Hostname change is not supported in CCM Versions prior to CCM 6.1(2):). I have dealt with some "rebels" who defied these threats and regret the fact they did. You can change the IP Address (let me know if you need a doc);
Note: It is not supported to change the hostname on the Cisco CallManager server because the Structured Query Language (SQL) database does not support the hostname change. This is because SQL uses the server name for many of the tables related to Cisco CallManager and exchanges this information as such with the operating system. When SQL server is installed, it binds the database to both the machine and Cisco CallManager server names. If this is changed, the database does not replicate properly since the new Cisco CallManager or machine name is not updated correctly by SQL. **If a hostname change is inevitable, then the entire Cisco CallManager must be rebuilt.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/voicesw/ps556/products_tech_note09186a0080094601.shtml
Prior to Cisco Unified Communications Manager Release 6.1(2), you cannot change the host name of either the publisher node or subscriber node after it is installed. If you must apply a new host name to a server, you can delete the server from Cisco Unified Communications Manager Administration (System > Server) and then reinstall the server with a new hostname. Also, be aware that a DRS backup that you take from a server with a particular hostname cannot be restored on a server (either a publisher or subscriber node) with a different hostname, even after you reinstall that node.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/install/6_1_1/ipchange/ipchg611.html
Changing the Hostname of Cisco Unified Communications Manager Servers
Starting with this release (6.1(2)), you can change the hostname of the first node or any subsequent nodes in the Cisco Unified Communications Manager cluster. You can only change the hostname of the first node from a subsequent node. The Cisco Unified Communications Operating System Administration user interface populates the hostname field on the Ethernet Configuration window and the Publisher Configuration window with the existing values. You can change the IP address or hostname of servers using the set network cluster publisher ip or set network cluster publisher hostname CLI commands.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Caution Resetting the hostname will cause your system to reboot and you may lose connectivity with the first node and the network. Before attempting to change the hostname of a Cisco Unified Communications Manager server, refer to the Changing the IP Address and Host Name for Cisco Unified Communications Manager Release 6.1(2).
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/rel_notes/6_1_2/cucm-rel_note-612.html#wp401012
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/install/6_1_2/ipchange/ipchg612.html#wp185050
Hope this helps! Cheers!
Rob
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