02-23-2010 11:17 AM - edited 03-19-2019 12:30 AM
We have a Unity 4.05 system in production. We have two Unity servers in a failover deployment and a backend Exchange server.
I have two new servers purchased for the installation of Unity Connection 7.x. They were spec'ed by our Cisco Gold Reseller and meet the Cisco minimum hardware requirements.
I need to get Unity Connection 7.x installed on those new servers and perform a COBRA export of our Unity 4.05 data and then subsequently import that data via COBRA into the new Unity Connection 7.x servers. Once I've done that, I intend to test the new Unity Connection servers and if they are fully functional, I'll decommission the old Unity 4.05 servers.
With our Entitlement contract number, I see the following orderable software:
UNCN7-UTYMIG-K9= | Migration from Unity 4.x or later to Unity Cxn 7.x | 21 | ||
UNITY-MS2003-UPG | Exchange VM-Runtime 2003 - For UCSS ONLY | 21 | ||
UNITY-OS-UPG-K9= | Unity OS Upgrade - 2000 to 2003 - For SASU/UCSS ONLY | View | 21 | |
UNITY5-SL32-VUPK9 | Unity 5.X Version Upgrade from 4.X - 32 ports or less | View | 21 | |
UNITY5-SL96-VUPK9 | Unity 5.X Version Upgrade from 4.X - 33 ports or more | View | 21 | |
UNITY7-32-K9-VUP= | Unity 7.0 Version Upgrade 32 Ports and Less | 21 | ||
UNITY7-MAX-K9-VUP= | Unity 7.0 Version Upgrade More Than 32 Ports | 21 | ||
UNITY7-SW-KIT-K9= | All Unity SW, Exch, Dom | 21 |
I don't see any installation media that would allow me to perform a clean installation of Unity Connection on my new servers. All I see is media to perform an in place upgrade and I do not want to do that as I have new servers.
Does anyone know if this media is available for new / clean installs of Unity Connection 7.x?
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02-23-2010 11:42 AM
Hi Amir,
I believe this part# (below) will get you the Media DVD's to build
Unity Connection 7.x;
UNCN7-UTYMIG-K9= | Migration from Unity 4.x or later to Unity Cxn 7.x |
Cheers!
Rob
02-23-2010 11:09 PM
If you ordered new servers from Cisco for CUC 7x, they will come pre-built and come with the DVD media. In addition, Rob's part number is correct. Your Cisco AM can order this if you are not entitled to; however, most of the Linux platform servers come preloaded. The version is based on what model server you purchased.
03-08-2010 06:28 PM
Amir,
Both TAC engineers told you the same thing. The specs for both servers are exactly the same. The different model numbers come down to the preload build that is on the server. This is what I referred to in my first post. The servers are prebuilt to the platform installation.
The UCC1 server is, I believe, a prebuild of CUC 8.0 and the actual server model preload is UCA1A.
The UCB2 server is (I know because I just built a cluster of servers of this exact model), preloaded with 7.1(3b) base and the model preload matches the server name (i.e., UCB2).
If you look up the server specs for an IBM equivalent on IBM or a reseller's website, you'll notice that many of the components that aren't up to spec in your configuration will state "up to X" which indicates that the server can be built with various specs based on 1) your choices and 2) your reseller and what they have available and/or what options they make available to you. In other words, the servers that you buy from Cisco that are branded MCS are IBM model servers that can be purchased from other places outside of Cisco BUT since they are OEM for Cisco, they are built with specific hardware specifications that must be matched if you purchase directly from the vendor. From there, you also have to pre-build the server yourself (as I mentioned before) to configure drivers, RAID array, etc and then you can run the install DVD and pass the hardware checks to ultimately install the software.
Hailey
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02-23-2010 11:42 AM
Hi Amir,
I believe this part# (below) will get you the Media DVD's to build
Unity Connection 7.x;
UNCN7-UTYMIG-K9= | Migration from Unity 4.x or later to Unity Cxn 7.x |
Cheers!
Rob
02-23-2010 11:47 AM
Hi Rob,
By the product description - it certainly reads likes an in place upgrade application. I'll inquire further with TAC / Customer Service to get specifics.
Thanks!
Amir
02-23-2010 11:09 PM
If you ordered new servers from Cisco for CUC 7x, they will come pre-built and come with the DVD media. In addition, Rob's part number is correct. Your Cisco AM can order this if you are not entitled to; however, most of the Linux platform servers come preloaded. The version is based on what model server you purchased.
03-01-2010 08:45 AM
Thanks. I have ordered the part number UNCN7-UTYMIG-K9. Is it just me...sometimes the most challenging aspect of a Cisco solution is ordering the correct part number and get the sucker licensed!
03-01-2010 08:47 AM
Thanks Rob. Hope you are well.
I've ordered that part. I have my servers on hand and will receive the media in 1 week. The next challenge is getting it licensed correctly. And then performing the COBRA export from my 4.x production environment and the subsequent COBRA import into the new Unity Connection 7.x servers and testing.
03-01-2010 10:13 AM
The COBRAS migration is straightforward. Just be sure to read what you can and cannot migrate beforehand. If you have any questions on that, let me know.
03-07-2010 08:27 AM
Hi -
I ordered and received the UNCN7-UTYMIG-K9 media. I have two IBM System x3650 M2 Type 7947 purchased directly from IBM. This model server is specifically listed in the following document -
Cisco Unity Connection 7.1 Supported Platforms List
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/voicesw/ps6789/ps5745/ps6509/data_sheet_c78-491743.html
Platform Overlay 3
Validation Error on HSSI mode:
783513 Validation Failure:
CPU Validation Mismatch: found [2] CPU expecting [1]
Disk Validation Error: Not enough disks found [0] expecting [2]
CPU Validation Mismatch: found [2] CPU expecting [1]
Disk Validation Error: Not enough disks found [0] expecting [4]
Memory Size Validation Mismatch: found [4 GB] expecting [6BG]
784513 Validation Failure:
CPU Speed Validation Mismatch: found [2.27GHz]
Disk Validation Error: Not enough disks found [0] expecting [4]
Memory Size Validation Mismatch: found [4 GB] expecting [8BG]
03-07-2010 08:54 AM
Hi Amir,
You may want to open a TAC Case here. Please reference this info as well
https://supportforums.cisco.com/thread/2007601?tstart=0
Sorry to hear you're having problems here!
Rob
03-07-2010 09:09 AM
Hi -
Oh - I already do. I always take the shot-gun approach and try several routes to getting my answer. Always hopeful that one of those routes will pay off and hopeful that one day I'll actually be able to install a UCM platform from scratch without error messages................NOT HOLDING MY BREATH!
03-07-2010 09:31 AM
TAC engineer isn't coming to any definitive conclusions. He is speculating, as I was also, that the array needs to be built before using the Install media. But there is not documentation to the effect on cisco.com.
03-07-2010 09:44 AM
I believe that is true. When you buy OEM from Cisco, the servers are
prebuilt to the platform installation. When you buy direct, you
likely need to prebuild with the manufacturer provided drivers and
install disks. This is also the case, for example, if you choose to
upgrade Unity on a supported but EOS/EOL platform such as the H1 or I1
series servers.
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 7, 2010, at 12:31 PM, asafayan
03-08-2010 04:25 PM
As a result of the TAC system upgrades their were performing over the weekend, two different TAC engineers contacted me to assist with this issue and I
rolled with it. I've gotten two different responses - the both revolve around mapping the non-Cisco hardware to specs for a particular MCS server platform.
The first engineer stated I must meet the server specs for model MCS7845I3-K9-UCC1:
The second engineer stated I must meet the server specs for model MCS7845I3-K9-UCB2:
But - my x3650 came with:
System x3650 M2
IBM Machine Type - Model 7947-32U
IBM Serial Number 99D7948
4 / 8 Gig Memory
4 @ 146 G Drives
Dual Proc - 2.26G
I'll update the case when I have further information.
03-08-2010 06:28 PM
Amir,
Both TAC engineers told you the same thing. The specs for both servers are exactly the same. The different model numbers come down to the preload build that is on the server. This is what I referred to in my first post. The servers are prebuilt to the platform installation.
The UCC1 server is, I believe, a prebuild of CUC 8.0 and the actual server model preload is UCA1A.
The UCB2 server is (I know because I just built a cluster of servers of this exact model), preloaded with 7.1(3b) base and the model preload matches the server name (i.e., UCB2).
If you look up the server specs for an IBM equivalent on IBM or a reseller's website, you'll notice that many of the components that aren't up to spec in your configuration will state "up to X" which indicates that the server can be built with various specs based on 1) your choices and 2) your reseller and what they have available and/or what options they make available to you. In other words, the servers that you buy from Cisco that are branded MCS are IBM model servers that can be purchased from other places outside of Cisco BUT since they are OEM for Cisco, they are built with specific hardware specifications that must be matched if you purchase directly from the vendor. From there, you also have to pre-build the server yourself (as I mentioned before) to configure drivers, RAID array, etc and then you can run the install DVD and pass the hardware checks to ultimately install the software.
Hailey
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03-11-2010 10:38 AM
Hi..
I was successfully able to install the CUCM 7.1.3 on an IBM X3650 M2.
The problem i had was with the Raid controller Card. For CUCM we require the Raid controllet card to be MR 10i but the server i got from IBM was M5104.
I manage to find an IBM X3650 M2(with same specs as myserver) but with MR10i raid controller and was successfull in installing. I have also raised an ticket with IBM as why M5104 is not supported for CUCM installation becuase they claim that M5104 is an upgraded version of MR10i and it should support them.
Would keep you updated once i get the confirmation from them.
.
We need not require to configure the Raidon the CUCM. the system installation DVD would care of it.
Thanks
Hari
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