Configure for T1 Pass Through

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Apr 1st, 2010
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I have a Cisco 1700 and was wondering it is was possible to configure as a T1 Pass Through?  The customer is getting a T1 as a backup to our fiber- required by German corporate.  They however, don't want to buy a different Router and want to still use the silly Sonic Wall the IT Person put in.  I was trying to up sell to a Cisco. 


Anyway, they would like to put a 1700 off the T1 but want NO routing done within the 1700 -- just a pass through to convert to Ethernet to hand to the Sonic Wall - which will do all the routing.  ANY IDEAS? 


This is what I am looking to do 


Verizon T1---- To Cisco 1700 Serial 0/0 CSU/DSU no routing - ETH 1/0 -  Hand off to Sonic Wall.


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paolo bevilacqua Thu, 04/01/2010 - 07:33
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You cannot go from T1 to ethernet without routing - it's as simple as that.

cozyk1515 Thu, 04/01/2010 - 07:49
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Thank you.  This what I thought however one of the cabling guys who doesn't deal with Routers was 100% positive that I could get it to work.  He brought 3 routers and wanted me to work on it until I got it working.  I told him it was possible.  So I thought I would post because if I was missing something than someone on here always has an answer!  Thanks for proving me RIGHT! 


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paolo bevilacqua Thu, 04/01/2010 - 08:03
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But that is not a problem really. To your customer eyes the router will just convert T1 to ethernet.

When the technical details are above someone understanding, better not even discussing them.


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Gautam Renjen Fri, 04/02/2010 - 18:15
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This can be done without routing on a router. This is called transparent bridging where we only do bridging between serial T1 to Ethernet.


Configuring Transparent Bridging

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk331/tk660/technologies_tech_note09186a0080094471.shtml


Look for Simple Transparent Bridging section in the above document. Instead of the second ethenet interface, add the bridge-group command under the serial interface.

paolo bevilacqua Sat, 04/03/2010 - 04:43
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This can be done without routing on a router. This is called transparent  bridging where we only do bridging between serial T1 to Ethernet.


Incorrect, layer 2 encapsulation used by ISP used on T1 circuits (HDLC or PPP) is NOT bridgeable because there are no MAC addresses.

paultribeca Thu, 09/23/2010 - 14:19
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I know this was posted long time ago but i am trying to do similar thing with T1. I thought it is posible becasue you can do it on  ADSL? I have done transparent bridging on WIC-ADSL module and Ethernet Port. According to my knowledge it also uses ppp. Can you explain it in more details or send some refernce documents?

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paolo bevilacqua Fri, 09/24/2010 - 12:13
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Pertinent to your problem, what are you trying to do, and why ?


Incidentally, I note that only a very ignorant person may have low-rated my post above, because what I wrote is the simple, uncontestable truth.

paultribeca Fri, 09/24/2010 - 12:20
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I am attaching Visio Diagram of what i am trying to do. I think it explain better than words. Let me know what you think and if anything like this is possible. The reason why i would do something like this is when ISP gives you only one IP address and you do not want to do double NAT.

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paolo bevilacqua Fri, 09/24/2010 - 12:22
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Please use only standard image formats for attachments, do not use proprietary formats.


What is the physical media used by ISP ? ADSL, T1, Ethernet ?

In case of ADSL, What is the protocol, PPPoE, Bridged RFC ?

paolo bevilacqua Fri, 09/24/2010 - 22:14
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Sorry, I do not understand the purpose of it.


It is a study lab or a real scenario ?

paultribeca Sat, 09/25/2010 - 11:46
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It is a lab scenario to test if this is possible or if there is any walk around it. Example: (Based on the Lab scenario) R2 is an ISP router conntected to my (R1) router via T1 (in this lab both routers use WIC-T1-CSU/DSU to simulate T1 link). I am provided only one IP address that i can use "172.1.1.2" and i want to bridge that address from R1 (S0/0) to sonicwall firewall WAN interface. Is there any way i can do it?

paolo bevilacqua Sat, 09/25/2010 - 20:23
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In the real world, ISPs using T1 do not provide only one address.


When you will produce a real scenario, things can be looked at.

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