I have a bachelor's in network computing but we only touched on Cisco routers and switches a tad bit. I started reading the cisco press books and am halfway through with ICND1. I have been practicing subnetting and exam questions with the CD's provided and currently using packet tracer for sim practice. Do i really need to get my hands on the 'real stuff' before I take the first part of the CCNA exam? I would like to take both ICNd1 and 2 but don't know if I have enough material to carry me through. This is why i am only taking the first part. Hopefully my degree and CCEnt cert will help me with landing and entryl level position before I continue with completing CCNA. Do you think i have enough material to pass CCENT? Should I keep studying with what I have and take the CCNA instead? Or do I not have enough for either one and need to invest in the real routhers and switches? Can you recommend a site where I can purchse these for cheap?