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CUCM [callmanager] 6 redundancy groups

jakehabart
Level 1
Level 1

Hi All,

for callmanger redundancy you can use the 2:1 or 1:1 redundancy models.

If I have a MCS 7845 server which holds 7500 phones can I get away with just two servers?

1 pub and 1 sub.  subscriber would be primary and publisher would be backup.

I always thought this was fine but someone told me that once you have over 1000 phones on a server Cisco recommends 3 servers. 1 Pub and 2
Subscribers, not using the publisher for backup at all.

can someone confirm this with a url link please.

thanks.

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Jaime Valencia
Cisco Employee
Cisco Employee

Actually it's 4 servers.

1 PUB

1 TFTP

2 SUBs

Publisher

The publisher is a required server in all clusters, and there can  currently be only one per cluster. This server is the first to be  installed and provides the database services to all other members in the  cluster. The publisher server is the only server that has full read and  write access to the configuration database. On larger systems with more  than 1250 users, Cisco recommends a dedicated publisher to prevent  administrative operations from affecting the telephony services. A  dedicated publisher does not have any call processing services or TFTP  services running on the server. Other servers run the TFTP and  Unified CM services.

With Cisco Unified CM 6.x, subscriber servers  in the cluster attempt to use the local database when initializing.  This reduces the Cisco CallManager Service initialization time. In prior  versions of Unified CM, subscriber servers in the cluster attempted to  use the publisher's database when initializing. If the publisher was not  available, they would use the local read-only copy from their hard  drives.

The choice of hardware platform for the publisher is based on the scale  and performance of the cluster. Cisco recommends that the publisher have  the same performance capability as the call processing subscribers.  Ideally the publisher should also be a high-availability server to  minimize the impact of a hardware failure.

TFTP Server

The TFTP server performs two main functions:

The serving of files for services such  as MoH, configuration files for devices such as phones and gateways,  binary files for the upgrade of phones as well as some gateways, and  various security files.

Generation of configuration and  security files. Most files generated by the Cisco TFTP service are  signed and in some cases encrypted before being available for download.

The TFTP service can be enabled on any server in the cluster. However,  in a cluster with more than 1250 users, other services might be impacted  by configuration changes that can cause the TFTP service to regenerate  configuration files. Therefore, Cisco recommends that you dedicate a  specific server to the TFTP service in a cluster with more than 1250  users, with Extension Mobility, or with other features that cause  configuration changes.

All above from SRND

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/srnd/6x/callpros.html#wp1043695

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java

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www.cisco.com/go/pdihelpdesk

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java

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David Hailey
VIP Alumni
VIP Alumni

This is outlined in the SRND.  Once you have 1250 phones or more, you need a dedicated Publisher (and ideally, a dedicated TFTP server as well) So, you would need to account for this by having the proper number of Subscribers.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/srnd/6x/callpros.html#wpmkr1043638

"Above 1250 users, a dedicated publisher and separate servers for primary and secondary call processing services is recommended, thus increasing the number of servers in a cluster."

Hailey

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Jaime Valencia
Cisco Employee
Cisco Employee

Actually it's 4 servers.

1 PUB

1 TFTP

2 SUBs

Publisher

The publisher is a required server in all clusters, and there can  currently be only one per cluster. This server is the first to be  installed and provides the database services to all other members in the  cluster. The publisher server is the only server that has full read and  write access to the configuration database. On larger systems with more  than 1250 users, Cisco recommends a dedicated publisher to prevent  administrative operations from affecting the telephony services. A  dedicated publisher does not have any call processing services or TFTP  services running on the server. Other servers run the TFTP and  Unified CM services.

With Cisco Unified CM 6.x, subscriber servers  in the cluster attempt to use the local database when initializing.  This reduces the Cisco CallManager Service initialization time. In prior  versions of Unified CM, subscriber servers in the cluster attempted to  use the publisher's database when initializing. If the publisher was not  available, they would use the local read-only copy from their hard  drives.

The choice of hardware platform for the publisher is based on the scale  and performance of the cluster. Cisco recommends that the publisher have  the same performance capability as the call processing subscribers.  Ideally the publisher should also be a high-availability server to  minimize the impact of a hardware failure.

TFTP Server

The TFTP server performs two main functions:

The serving of files for services such  as MoH, configuration files for devices such as phones and gateways,  binary files for the upgrade of phones as well as some gateways, and  various security files.

Generation of configuration and  security files. Most files generated by the Cisco TFTP service are  signed and in some cases encrypted before being available for download.

The TFTP service can be enabled on any server in the cluster. However,  in a cluster with more than 1250 users, other services might be impacted  by configuration changes that can cause the TFTP service to regenerate  configuration files. Therefore, Cisco recommends that you dedicate a  specific server to the TFTP service in a cluster with more than 1250  users, with Extension Mobility, or with other features that cause  configuration changes.

All above from SRND

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/srnd/6x/callpros.html#wp1043695

HTH

java

If this helps, please rate

www.cisco.com/go/pdihelpdesk

HTH

java

if this helps, please rate

David Hailey
VIP Alumni
VIP Alumni

This is outlined in the SRND.  Once you have 1250 phones or more, you need a dedicated Publisher (and ideally, a dedicated TFTP server as well) So, you would need to account for this by having the proper number of Subscribers.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/srnd/6x/callpros.html#wpmkr1043638

"Above 1250 users, a dedicated publisher and separate servers for primary and secondary call processing services is recommended, thus increasing the number of servers in a cluster."

Hailey

Please rate helpful posts!

jakehabart
Level 1
Level 1

Thanks guys,  thats exactly what I was looking for.

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