WAE 512 or WAVE 574

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Aug 6th, 2010
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Which one it the better choice...?

Correct Answer by Eric Rose about 6 years 7 months ago

I am not sure what the point is...?? That document is a little dated. According to the caveat section it is based on 4.0.3 release.


http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/solutions/Enterprise/Data_Center/WAASDC11.html#wp102380


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Eric Rose

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wrobbin Fri, 08/06/2010 - 13:07
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WAE--512#sh tfo detail

   Policy Engine Config Item            Value
   -------------------------            -----
   State                                Registered
   Default Action                       Use Policy
   Connection Limit                     1500
   Effective Limit                      1490
   Keepalive timeout                    3.0 seconds

WAE--512#



NO-HOSTNAME#sh tfo detail

   Policy Engine Config Item            Value
   -------------------------            -----
   State                                Registered
   Default Action                       Use Policy
   Connection Limit                     1300
   Effective Limit                      1300
   Keepalive timeout                    3.0 seconds

NO-HOSTNAME#



But i wonder is the 512 gonna be around for awhile ...

Eric Rose Mon, 08/09/2010 - 07:05
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The WAVE-574 is a newer model and it also has the Virtual Blade support.


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wrobbin Mon, 08/09/2010 - 07:12
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Yes but we dont ever plan on using the Virtual Blade...The 512's are 850 bucks cheaper to us and offer 190 more TFO connections then the 574..What i wanted to make sure before i deploy is that Cisco isnt gonna axe these anytime soon...

Eric Rose Mon, 08/09/2010 - 07:20
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From the 4.2.1 sizing guidelines. The 574 supports more connections.


The 512 with 2GB of RAM support 1200 connections

The 574 with 6GB of RAM support 1300 connections


Your screen capture is that on the same version of software?

wrobbin Mon, 08/09/2010 - 07:41
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yup all 4.1.5f..

OE512



WAE-X-512#sh tfo detail

   Policy Engine Config Item            Value
   -------------------------            -----
   State                                Registered
   Default Action                       Use Policy
   Connection Limit                     1500
   Effective Limit                      1490
   Keepalive timeout                    3.0 seconds

WAE-X-512#sh inventory

PID: WAE-512-K9 VID: 0

WAE-X-512#


WAE-X-512#sh ver
Cisco Wide Area Application Services Software (WAAS)
Copyright (c) 1999-2010 by Cisco Systems, Inc.
Cisco Wide Area Application Services Software Release 4.1.5f (build b2 Apr 20 2010)
Version: oe512-4.1.5f.2

Compiled 12:26:34 Apr 20 2010 by cnbuild

System was restarted on Sat Jun  5 21:50:52 2010.
The system has been up for 9 weeks, 1 day, 12 hours, 50 minutes, 3 seconds.

WAE-X-512#




Now if upgrading to 4.2.1 will bring my connections down to 1200 that’s unacceptable

Eric Rose Mon, 08/09/2010 - 07:46
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Ok the sizing guide from 4.1.5 also shows 1200 and 1300 for connection limits. I am not sure about the output


Will have to let somebody from the BU/Support comment.


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wrobbin Mon, 08/09/2010 - 07:47
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In the

Ordering Guide for Cisco WAAS dated

June 11, 2010



its says


WAE-512-K9

TCP connections

TCP connections

750 - 1500

Cisco WAE-512 with chassis with 1 GB SDRAM, 1

250-GB HDD, and AC power supply

Additional memory and HDDs available for higher

optimized TCP connection count and RAID-1

redundancy; virtual blades are not supported

US$12,500

wrobbin Mon, 08/09/2010 - 08:13
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Page 5 of 5..

When the Application Optimizers are disabled the maximum TCP connections for the following platform is as

follow: NME 502 - 500 , NME 522 - 800, 512-1GB - 750, 512-3G - 1500, 612-2G - 2000, 612-4G - 6000.


What does that really mean ?


WAE-X-512#sh accelerator

Accelerator     Licensed        Config State    Operational State
-----------     --------        ------------    -----------------
cifs            Yes             Enabled         Running
epm             Yes             Enabled         Running
http            Yes             Enabled         Running
mapi            Yes             Enabled         Running
nfs             Yes             Enabled         Running
ssl             Yes             Enabled         Running
video           No              Enabled         Shutdown
wafs-core       Yes             Disabled        Shutdown
wafs-edge       Yes             Disabled        Shutdown
WAE-X-512#






Eric Rose Mon, 08/09/2010 - 09:01
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My guess would be when transport license is used and/or when all AO are disabled.

wrobbin Mon, 08/09/2010 - 14:01
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http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/solutions/Enterprise/Data_Center/WAASDC11.html#wp80841





Device
Max Optimized TCP Connections
Max CIFS Sessions
Single Drive Capacity [GB]
Max Drives
RAM [GB]
Max Recommended WAN Link [Mbps]
Max Optimized Throughput [Mbps]
Max Core Fan-out [Peers]
CM Scalability [Devices]

NME-WAE-302

250

N/A

80

1

0.5

4

90

NME-WAE-502

500

500

120

1

1

4

150

WAE-512-1

750

750

250

2

1

8

100

5

500

WAE-512-2

1500

1500

250

2

2

20

150

10

1000

WAE-612-2

2000

2000

300

2

2

45

250

30

2000

WAE-612-4

6000

2500

300

2

4

90

350

50

2500

WAE-7326

7500

2500

300

6

4

155

450

96

wrobbin Tue, 08/10/2010 - 05:02
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Eric,

        The point being i need to order a good amount of these for the company i work for..and i would like to get the most bang for buck with  850 dollar difference between them once i get to around 13-15 that 850 dollars adds up the where i could have got an additonal one...with a 512 vs a 574..

wrobbin Tue, 08/10/2010 - 10:36
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Just learned Cisco was is doing an EOS on this product but thank you for the help Eric

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