08-09-2010 03:11 AM - edited 03-13-2019 07:05 PM
Hi,
I have DME 1100, DMM 5.1, Video Portal 5.1 & DMP - 3305 & 4404
I want to display live video on VP users' desktop & DMPs through DME. Is it possible & how ??
Regards,
Nimit
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08-09-2010 05:34 AM
as i mentioned earlier, the live streaming to the DMP displays can be accomplished using
the SA encoders. If they want the flexibility of both, Digital Signs & Video Portal, then they
will need to have 2 cameras recording the live event. One connected to the SA encoder
and the other connected to the DME.
Documentation to Help Setup Video Portal:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/video/digital_media_systems/5_x/5_1/dmm/user/guide/vpm.html
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/video/digital_media_systems/5_x/5_1/vp/user/guide/vp_51.html
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/video/digital_media_systems/5_x/5_1/vp/user/guide/livevid.html
Cheers!
T.
08-09-2010 05:09 AM
Nimit,
The DME encoder is typically used for Live Events in the Video Portal (5.1 & earlier) and
Show and Share (5.2 & Later). The media format for Live events in the above is
Windows Media.
The DMP media format for live multicast events is MPEG-TS. For this format, you would
use a Scientific Atlanta encoder to perform this function.
What you could do is use a SA encoder and an MXE-3500 in tandem. The SA encoder
will stream the MPEG-TS streams and the DMP can display the live events directly.
Then the MXE can take the Live MPEG-TS streams and Transcode and then stream
Windows Media so that the video portal can view them from a windows media services
broadcast point.
In the Future (nothing to mention at this time), more options and integration between the
Digital Signs & Show and Share may be available.
Cheers!
T.
08-09-2010 05:19 AM
Hi Tomas,
Thanks for your support.
I am already having SA and it is working fine through multicasting.
But customer also want live conference & meeting to be stream on LCD as DME is used for live streaming.
As you shared, DME live streaming can be only used for Video Portal users by configuring as video part. For this to work is streaming server required ?? Can you help me to configure live streaming for video portal ??
So there is no way to display live streaming on LCDs via DMPs ??
Regards,
Nimit
08-09-2010 05:34 AM
as i mentioned earlier, the live streaming to the DMP displays can be accomplished using
the SA encoders. If they want the flexibility of both, Digital Signs & Video Portal, then they
will need to have 2 cameras recording the live event. One connected to the SA encoder
and the other connected to the DME.
Documentation to Help Setup Video Portal:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/video/digital_media_systems/5_x/5_1/dmm/user/guide/vpm.html
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/video/digital_media_systems/5_x/5_1/vp/user/guide/vp_51.html
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/video/digital_media_systems/5_x/5_1/vp/user/guide/livevid.html
Cheers!
T.
08-19-2010 07:48 AM
Hi Tomas,
As per your input, to push DME live streaming to LCD & VP simultaneously we have 2 options:
1> To use MXE - 3500 & SA encoder with DME to convert Windows media format to MPEG format.
2> To use 2 cameras. one for DME live streaming to VP and another for SA encoder to LCD
But in attached screen shot; it shows that by connecting DME to SA, we can publish Live streaming on LCD.
Following is the URL for your reference:
Regards,
Nimit
08-20-2010 09:47 AM
Nimit,
I answered you question based on the information that you provided and the
specifications you mentioned on the Live event using the DME.
I see the figure 8.3 that you reference but i do not understand or aware of how this works.
I do not know the model of SA encoder they are using here but AFAIK the
encoders DME & SA that I have worked with take Analog & Digital inputs and have
IP packet based outputs. Working on this assumption, the picture is incorrect if you
follow the workflow with the arrows.
The key here is what encoder are you using to capture the Live presentations.
You mention that you will use a "DME". And you already have an SA taking
in Live Feeds (TV or whatever) sending MPEG2 TS multicast streams to the
existing DMPs. If I understand your original question correctly, you want
to send the "DME" Live feeds to the DMPs.
Let's break down again.
DME = WMV (Windows Media) Streams
SA = MPEG TS Streams
Show and Share (SnS) = WMV Streams
Digital Signs (DMPs) = MPEG TS Streams
MXE-3500K Live Streaming Transcoding = MPEG TS (ingest) \ WMV (egress)
Your goal was to get the DME Live streams to the Digital Signs (DMPs)
so the basics is you need to go from WMV to MPEG TS streaming.
Taking in the limitations on Encoder OUTPUT is IP Packet based and the components
listed above, at this time, I don't see how this will work without two cameras.
If we were going from MPEG TS to WMV streaming I could make this work.
Hopefully in a future release of MXE, we will add the Live transcoding of WMV to MPEG TS or the DMP
may add the support of WMV streaming. But right now, the easiest solution is 2 cameras for Live feeds.
If your record a live feed (wmv) and then want to play it out later on the DMPs that is not an issue. Just have
the MXE transcode the files...
I hope this clears it up and If I am missing something someone else will chime in....
Cheers!
T.
08-20-2010 10:12 AM
Nimit
Tom is correct in his reply. I have been doing corporate video production and webcasting for years. The video rule is "Best Quality in...Best Quality out". Switch any multicamera setups using a video switcher and creat a single feed or Use a single camera package out in the field, with a single feed to one of your SA encoders which will also be located at the production site, back haul the unicast of the video stream at a high bitrate MPEG TS to your data center. Use the high quality stream into the MXE to transcode your files into all the codec profiles you will require for deployment to both the SnS and LCD /DMP playback. Trying to do it the other way round running dual video streams directly from an event porting to specific end points is just complicating things and not the correct way to get this done . Just as a note ...On any offsite webcasts in locations such as hotels I would suggest a secondary encoder with the very same stream running on a seperate IP connection at the event site in case of fail over.
I hope this helps.
C.O.
09-03-2010 11:57 AM
Hello! Does DMS 5.2 support russian language in static text or RSS?
If I had a multicast source, using different equipment (non SA), but the stream is MPEG-TS, will DMP show it?
09-03-2010 02:27 PM
Max,
Unfortunately in DMS 5.2.1, the Cyrillic alphabet\Unicode fonts are not
supported (AFAIK).
As for the MPEG TS streams, Any device can provide mulitcast streaming
content as long the content in the streams is in the correct supported format
and the content is contained in a MPEG TS container.
Please refer to the DMP-4400G Data Sheet:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/video/ps9339/ps7220/data_sheet_c78-480272.html
If this answers your question, Please take time to mark this
discussion answered & rate the response.
Thank You!
T.
09-04-2010 01:16 AM
Thank you for the response Tomas.
Have you any suggestions, how to show Cyrilic in other ways?
Is it hard to write an add-on by Cisco to support Cyrilic? As I know, in VP 5.1 and SnS everything is fine with it.
09-04-2010 10:59 AM
Max,
AFAIK, there is no workaround for 5.2.x versions at this time.
In DMS 5.2.x RSS display widget has changed from HTML to Adobe Flash.
In DMS 5.1 RSS was displayed by TVZilla and it was OK with Cyrillic and many others.
Now it is displayed by Flash widget, which has no Unicode font in it, and there fore it can not display Cyrillic.
There are no way to upload Unicode fonts to this widget.
There are a lot of customers that have been affected by this and I am sure that
the Development will be or is already looking into this. Just keep and eye on upcoming
releases to see when Cyrillic support is added...
Cheers!
T.
09-14-2010 07:47 AM
Thanks Tomas, I sent a request to the local cisco department in over contry, they said that would help.
Also, I have a new question to you. I heard in different WebEX'es, that we could built a TV wall, using Cisco LCD and DMP, but I didn't found any documentation about how to built or manage this wall. Can you help with it?
09-14-2010 07:57 AM
Max,
Start a new post for your video wall question and I will
respond and post some files that explain the
video wall capabilities.
In your post please describe what you are looking to
do with the video wall and how many displays are you
looking at.
Starting a new thread for a New Question or subject is
always best so that others viewing the forum see the
different questions & responses based on a unique
Subject or Topic.
Thanks
T.
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