Innovatio IP Ventures LLC suing companies over WiFi use

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Jan 10th, 2012

Hello,

We received a letter today, first thinking it was bogus and then confirming it. At the moment it has been passed off to our lawyers.

In the letter it states that users of WiFi are in violation of patents held by this company. The letter is fairly vague for technical specs and only lists patent numbers that are in violation. Looking out on the web it appears that other people have gotten letters of this sort demanding payments of $2,300 - $5,000 for a one time license fee for people to continue to use WiFi technologies.

Has anyone else heard of this before? With about 100 AP's in service we don't have that large of a deployment and we are surprised they would target us in such an obvious attempt to squeeze money out of people. It appears that this affects not only Cisco equipment but several other major manufactures as well.

http://essayboard.com/2011/10/03/innovatio-sues-wifi-users-on-patent-infringement-but-the-company-only-goes-after-hotels-and-coffee-shops-for-now-technically-all-wifi-users-such-as-you-are-liable/

http://patentexaminer.org/2011/09/innovatios-infringement-suit-rampage-expands-to-corporate-hotels/

http://patentexaminer.org/2011/10/sonicwall-moves-to-defend-hotels-restaurants-from-innovatio-patent-suits/

It appears that Cisco and Motorola have joined together in a suit to  declare that it's products do not infringe on the patents.

http://dockets.justia.com/docket/illinois/ilndce/1:2011cv09309/264019/

Thanks,

Mike

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George Stefanick Tue, 01/10/2012 - 12:21

I heard this was going on. It will be intersting to see what goes on with the existing suits. I cant see this as being legit. I will cost them more to fight it then its worth.

Leo Laohoo Tue, 01/10/2012 - 16:22

I've heard something similar but not the same.

There's an organization here in Australia who's suing anyone who illegally download a film (forgot the title of the film).  The problem was that the film was not a high-budget film and it's not a high grossing film.  So the organization, in coorperation with the people who own the rights to the film, found another way to make money by suing anyone who illegally downloaded the movie for AU$5k per person.

“Innovatio is in the business of enforcing and licensing patents,” Motorola and Cisco allege in their complaint. “Innovatio does not sell or offer for sale any products.

So in my personal opinion, this is a kind of legalized "protection" racket.

George Stefanick Tue, 01/10/2012 - 18:56

You have wifi in Australia ? I mean I thought you boys down under were still using cans and string ?

burleyman Wed, 01/11/2012 - 04:50

George yes they now have wireless down under. They removed the string from the can and cut the bottom out and just have to shout a little louder and viola! wireless. Albeit the range is greatly diminished.... 

Leo Laohoo Wed, 01/11/2012 - 13:00
I mean I thought you boys down under were still using cans and string ?

We "have" wifi.  It's on a shoe-string budget.

Commercial wi-fi is very "difficult".  We're the only country in the world where upload and download of data is counted against your internet subscription.  Submarine cables to and from Australia are pretty much saturated.

So providing free wi-fi is mostly a "punishment" because our internet provider wants more money.  For example, some McDonalds offer free wifi but their ISP link has a 1,024k download and 512k upload limit.  Data is mostly capped to 50Gb and when you reach that limit, you get throttled down to 64kbps/64kbps.

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