Jamie thank you, but I am still need to decode your reponse.  "Yes", means they will work or they will not work?  Yes meanss, the fie comes from the CUCM or does it come from the router?  I now understand they are 3ard party, so I guess that means follow procedure for adding third party sip devices?

Treating them as third party sip devices worked. What a drag how however, that means no self provisioning?  YOu have to assigned the phone to the users, defeats the entire purpose of self provisioning, not to mention auto registraiton, but you were right.