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Types of Autonomous Access Point in the Cisco Market.

Hi All,

I am quite new to the wireless technologies. I need some help in understanding the basic models of Cisco wireless Hardware available in the market (Enterprise Level).

From my initial studies in past 24 hours what i understand is that Autonomous AP are the wireless AP which does not require Controllers. they needs to be configured on their on. So far i could find Cisco Aironet C1130 AG models which can be used as Autonomous Access Point.

Can anyone suggest any other Cisco AP which can be used as Autonomous Access Point?

Can 800 Series wireless routers be used as Autonomous Access Point?

Do we have any ISR Modules which can be inserted on a router to have a Autonomous Access Point?

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Thanks.

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Types of Autonomous Access Point in the Cisco Market.

Question 1:

Can anyone suggest any other Cisco AP which can be used as Autonomous Access Point?

Solution

Please Check the below guide for available models and features

Link-1

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/wireless/ps5678/ps10981/at_a_glance_c45-636090.pdf

Link-2

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/wireless/index.html

Question 2:

Can 800 Series wireless routers be used as Autonomous Access Point?

Solution

Yes you can use it, Please check the complete guide

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/routers/access/800/880/software/configuration/guide/880_basic_device_wireless_config.html#wp1060220

Question 3:

Do we have any ISR Modules which can be inserted on a router to have an Autonomous Access Point?

Solution

Please check the below link, for ISR Modules

Link-1

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/modules/ps5949/ps6246/product_data_sheet0900aecd8028cc7b_ps5949_Products_Data_Sheet.html

Link-2

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5853/products_relevant_interfaces_and_modules.html

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Re: Types of Autonomous Access Point in the Cisco Market.

Can anyone suggest any other Cisco AP which can be used as Autonomous Access Point?

All the indoor APs can run either Autonomous (aka aIOS) or controller-based IOS (aka CAPWAP).   Converting from one to the other is very easy.  Cisco has recently announced the end-of-sale of the 1130.  The models that replaced the 1130 are the CleanAir-capable, 1600 and 2600.  When you get either one of the two, aIOS does NOT support CleanAir.

Can 800 Series wireless routers be used as Autonomous Access Point?

Exactly which one?  860W and 880W routers have a built-in AP, the 801.  The 890W has the 802.  The difference between the 801 and the 802 are the number of radios.  801 is only 802.11 b/g while the 802 is 802.11 a/b/g/n.  The antennas for the 880W router cannot be removed or replaced.  And yes, both the 801 and 802 AP can run with aIOS.  You just need to enter this command on the ROUTER:   service-module wlan-ap 0 bootimage autonomous

Once you enter this command, the router will instruct the 801/802 AP to boot to autonomous mode.

Old model 850W & 877W are autonomous IOS only.  850W & 870W are 802.11b/g. 

Do we have any ISR Modules which can be inserted on a router to have a Autonomous Access Point?

Yes but I'm no big fan of routers with AP.  The main reason is the location of the router against the location of your wireless client.  Most of the time, wireless routers are stuck in the corner of the property and the clients are located in the opposite side.

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Bronze

Types of Autonomous Access Point in the Cisco Market.

Question 1:

Can anyone suggest any other Cisco AP which can be used as Autonomous Access Point?

Solution

Please Check the below guide for available models and features

Link-1

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/wireless/ps5678/ps10981/at_a_glance_c45-636090.pdf

Link-2

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/wireless/index.html

Question 2:

Can 800 Series wireless routers be used as Autonomous Access Point?

Solution

Yes you can use it, Please check the complete guide

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/routers/access/800/880/software/configuration/guide/880_basic_device_wireless_config.html#wp1060220

Question 3:

Do we have any ISR Modules which can be inserted on a router to have an Autonomous Access Point?

Solution

Please check the below link, for ISR Modules

Link-1

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/modules/ps5949/ps6246/product_data_sheet0900aecd8028cc7b_ps5949_Products_Data_Sheet.html

Link-2

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5853/products_relevant_interfaces_and_modules.html

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Re: Types of Autonomous Access Point in the Cisco Market.

Thanks for your reply Aqeel..

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Re: Types of Autonomous Access Point in the Cisco Market.

The 1941w is the only one with an integrated wireless. Your better off getting an autonomous AP and connecting that to a switch port on the router you have it a switch that you have at that site. I would look at the 1142 for a cheap 802.11N access point.

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Re: Types of Autonomous Access Point in the Cisco Market.

Scott Fella wrote:

The 1941w is the only one with an integrated wireless. Your better off getting an autonomous AP and connecting that to a switch port on the router you have it a switch that you have at that site. I would look at the 1142 for a cheap 802.11N access point.

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Thank you for your reply Scott,

Do you mean to say 891W, 892W, 892F-W, C887VA-V-W, 861W all these router cannot act as Autonomous AP?

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Types of Autonomous Access Point in the Cisco Market.

The issue with an ap inside a router, is that you still need to configure the router to put traffic on the network.  If you have one of these routers with wirless, you can use the ap, but you need to be able to configure the ap to communicate with the router in order for it to work.  Your best bet is to just get an ISR G2, like what your using already, and buy a seperate AP.

Thanks,

Scott

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Re: Types of Autonomous Access Point in the Cisco Market.

Can anyone suggest any other Cisco AP which can be used as Autonomous Access Point?

All the indoor APs can run either Autonomous (aka aIOS) or controller-based IOS (aka CAPWAP).   Converting from one to the other is very easy.  Cisco has recently announced the end-of-sale of the 1130.  The models that replaced the 1130 are the CleanAir-capable, 1600 and 2600.  When you get either one of the two, aIOS does NOT support CleanAir.

Can 800 Series wireless routers be used as Autonomous Access Point?

Exactly which one?  860W and 880W routers have a built-in AP, the 801.  The 890W has the 802.  The difference between the 801 and the 802 are the number of radios.  801 is only 802.11 b/g while the 802 is 802.11 a/b/g/n.  The antennas for the 880W router cannot be removed or replaced.  And yes, both the 801 and 802 AP can run with aIOS.  You just need to enter this command on the ROUTER:   service-module wlan-ap 0 bootimage autonomous

Once you enter this command, the router will instruct the 801/802 AP to boot to autonomous mode.

Old model 850W & 877W are autonomous IOS only.  850W & 870W are 802.11b/g. 

Do we have any ISR Modules which can be inserted on a router to have a Autonomous Access Point?

Yes but I'm no big fan of routers with AP.  The main reason is the location of the router against the location of your wireless client.  Most of the time, wireless routers are stuck in the corner of the property and the clients are located in the opposite side.

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Re: Types of Autonomous Access Point in the Cisco Market.

Leo Laohoo wrote:

You just need to enter this command on the ROUTER:   service-module wlan-ap 0 bootimage autonomous

I have short listed the routers in 800 series: 891W, 892W, 892F-W, C887VA-V-W, 861W

Does the command you have mentioned make these routers as Autonomous?

Yes but I'm no big fan of routers with AP.  The main reason is the location of the router against the location of your wireless client.  Most of the time, wireless routers are stuck in the corner of the property and the clients are located in the opposite side.

It would be great if you could point out some models or PID of AP which will work in ISR G2 2900 3900 routers.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/modules/ps5949/ps6246/product_data_sheet0900aecd8028cc7b_ps59

Whatever listed here are for 2800 and 3800 series routers.

Thanks a ton for your reply.

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Re: Types of Autonomous Access Point in the Cisco Market.

I have short listed the routers in 800 series: 891W, 892W, 892F-W, C887VA-V-W, 861W

Does the command you have mentioned make these routers as Autonomous?

Of the 800 series (I have no knowledge about the 1900W), there are only five sub-models that have built-in wireless.

850W & 870W both have autonomous-only AP.  These two models are already end-of-sale.  So we scratch those two out of your list.

860W, 880W and 890W both have builti-in AP.  The APs can operate EITHER in autonomous or controller-based.  You can easily convert the AP from either controller-based to autonomous (and vice versa) by using the router command I've posted in my previous response.

A simple guide when dealing with the 800-series router.  Notice that we end our models with a "0"?  This basically is the sub-model.  The one's that you've listed ends with different digit, like a 1, 2, 7.  This is the "flavours".  7, for example. are xDSL WAN interface.  If it ends in a 1, the WAN interface is Fast/GigabitEthernet.  If I remembered correctly, the 2 has a fibre optic port as a WAN interface.  The 887VA means it's a xDSL with Annex "M", I think, and it's geared up for voice.

It would be great if you could point out some models or PID of AP which will work in ISR G2 2900 3900 routers.

Go here.  I'd recommend the 2600 access point.  There are two sub-models:  one with internal antenna (ends with an "I") and one with an external antenna (ends wth an "E").   If you want the "E", be aware that you need to purchase the appropriate antennas separately.  If the APs are to be used indoors, use the "I".

Go through this other document:  Wireless LAN Compliance Status

Make sure you get the appropriate AP with the correct regulatory domain of the country where the AP is going to be installed.  For example, if the AP will be installed in USA, then get the one with the regulatory domain of "SAP2602I-A-K9" where "-A" is the regulatory domain of the USA.

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Re: Types of Autonomous Access Point in the Cisco Market.

Hay Leo,

Leo Laohoo wrote:

Go here.  I'd recommend the 2600 access point.  There are two sub-models:  one with internal antenna (ends with an "I") and one with an external antenna (ends wth an "E").   If you want the "E", be aware that you need to purchase the appropriate antennas separately.  If the APs are to be used indoors, use the "I".

I was looking for HWIC Cards for 29XX and 39XX which can act as AP. Are you aware of any?

Thanks for your help all the way Leo.

     

Types of Autonomous Access Point in the Cisco Market.

Please refer to the link for all the available AP series of Cisco.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5678/Products_Sub_Category_Home.html

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