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Requisitions that are never approved

Requisitions that are never approved

I'm wondering what other companies are doing (if anything) about requisitions that never get approved.  Is there any bad side effect or strange metrics that are produced if there is an ever growing pool of requests that are basically in limbo?  We're on 2006.0.6. 

When we first implemented RC, professional services recommended putting an escalation in that would notify us (administrators) when an approval task was way overdue so that we could cancel the request.  Well now that we're actually using the system we've discovered that it isn't even possible to cancel the request during the approval moment (only the requestor can).  We could "reject" the approval, although that isn't really what we want to do and may cause more confusion with the customer.

So I'm hoping someone out there with a more mature install has some wisdom for me.  I'm hoping that its fine to just ignore the requests that are never approved, but I don't want to find out later on that it was a mistake :)

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Requisitions that are never approved

Tylor,

We (Dominion Power) have not implemented an explicit process that directly handles unapproved requests proactively.   We have included the maximum escalations to try to minimize this issue, but are pushing the approval responsibility to the "service group authorization" party.   I do agree...it would be very confusing to the customer if they randomly get a cancellation email, especially without an explanation.   If the "requested for" needs their&

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Tylor,

Unfortunately, I don't have a solution for you - but we've got the same issue with about 200 outstanding old approval requests.  I too don't want to reject them because it will confuse the users, besides the fact that it would take a lot of time to manually open each request and reject it.

So, the requests are just sitting there...

 

Scott

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Requisitions that are never approved

We have the same issue  (about 1000)  We are on 2006.0.7.1

Just so that you are aware, an irritating side effect of delayed approval is that if the service is ch

Requisitions that are never approved

We are implementing escalations to remind the designated approver (we have 2 setup - 10 working days, then 5 working days).  If the request is not approved 5 days after the second reminder, we inform the requester to follow-up with the approver.(third escalation)  Then 5 days after this, our admins get notified  (fourth) and we reject since this is the only option right now. 

This will replace a manual effort - we have a report we run that shows request over 30 days old tha

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This may be a silly question, but what do you all view is the harm in leaving these requests alone?  No action taken and they remain in the system as is.

Just looking for some feedback, that's all.

Thanks!

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The only issue that I see is the corruption of the approval (which happens to us frequently).

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Hi Daniel,

What do you mean corruption of approval?

Just curious never heard that phrase before.......

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Hi Taylor,

We have had RequestCentre up and running since Feb 07,

Our approval process goes like this


Step 1 -

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Re: Requisitions that are never approved

The Corruption of  Approval is this...

When the performer clicks on Approve or Reject they get the  error
" Our Apologies... Click Continue etc"

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2006.0.8

We currently have about 12,000 requisitions in ongoing status.  Not sure what percentage of that 12K are waiting for an approval.  I'm assuming it's a lot.  We are currently trying to figure out a way to cancel the requistions without the emails firing off to our customers.  Has anyone firgured this out?

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We also faced the similar kind of issue in our environments, but we have created different service Id's whenever we do a new migration (whenever there are any new tasks or approvals are involved) to avoid these kind of issues. You have to rename the previous version of this service and keep the same name for the new service id that is getting migrated, so that users will not get confused. They will have the same service name available for ordering.

newScale 2006 versions works on the Service ID val

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Hi,

 

I am trying to cancel a requisition using RAPI/ServiceLink. I don’t have any experience with it. I read in Page 61 of newScale_2007_1_ServiceLin

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Hi,

We also had the same problem as mentioned by Daniel. However, we realized that his happens because one of the Requisition tasks status gets set to 'Staffing' (mainly the monitor task).  The solution for this is to set the task status to complete from the DB end(we ask the NewScale support to do this for).

Thanks, Archana

Requisitions that are never approved

My suggestion would be to get newScale to provide us with a DB script that will remove reqs (and all associated references) by req#.

Requisitions that are never approved

An enhacement request has been submitted to allow the option to auto reject a request after X number of days. 

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Wesley,

Were you able to figure out your XML/ServiceLink issue?  Thanks!

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Re: Requisitions that are never approved

Yes,  in fact there was something missing in the XML file. Please change only  the part in bold. See below a correct sample:

<rapimessage>

<request>

   <cancelreq>

   <cancelrequisition id='RequisitionNumber'  user='#Person.loginID.RequestorsLogin' index='1'  adtype='id int index int'>

   <cancelreason>'CancelReason'</cancelreason&g

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Excellent!  Thanks Wesley.

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for some reason I keep getting a 500 error trying the above, am I missing anything else?

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Wesley, I am having a difficult time with the soap envelope, could you pls share yours?

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Re: Requisitions that are never approved

The  only thing that i missed on the XML sample above was a '#' next to  requestor's login.

<cancelrequisition id='RequisitionNumber'  user='#Person.loginID.RequestorsLogin#' index='1'  adtype='id int index int'>

Please try using the fully  qualified name of the server http://Servername.companyname.com:Port/BusinessEngine/services/RAPI

Also, this was tes

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this also works if you are an admin or part of the workflow

     URL/myservices/reqstatus.do?requisitionId=11016&formAction=cancelRequisition&

System and history shows:

    Emir E.. on 10/23/2009 11:33 AM Emir E.. cancelled the requisition 11016.

Prereq: valid cookie

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Emir,

Sorry for replying only now. At first, I was having trouble with the SOAP enveloppe myself, so i used the libraries found in any programming language. Unfortunately i cannot share codes due to company policies. But, you(or a programmer) may have an idea of what i am referring to and twick the code a little:

http://www.bigresource.com/VB-manually-create-a-S

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