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DLU to UCL

Dear All,

Can we change the license type DLU to UCL without upgrading CUCM version (current v.8.6.2) and without active UCSS/ESW contract?

 

Thanks.

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VIP Purple

Hi Frank,Before u do major

Hi Frank,

Before u do major upgarde, upload all un-unsed DLUs to Call manager. 

Secondly,if u have any free DLUs, that would get converted to UCL Enhanced/ Enhanced Plus after the major upgrade is done . This can be done only after u do successful migration to CUCM 9 or 10.

Further , if u purchase UCL now for CUCM 8 , the same would work as DLU after u upload the licenses in CUCM 8.x.

 

Un-used DLUs get converted to enhanced UCL be default if u do not mention to licensing team.

refer the link

https://communities.cisco.com/thread/41026

regds,

aman

VIP Purple

Hi Frank,Analog phones/6901

Hi Frank,

Analog phones/6901 /3905 do not consume any DLUs but we need to purchase Analog phone Licneses not DLU , had it been DLU case or they were not End of Sale

 

But now it is UCL essential in CUCM 8 or CUCM 9 since DLU is end of sale.

 

Device Type - Cost in DLUs

 

Cisco VGC Phone (Voice Gateway Controlled, e.g. behind VG248)

Cisco VGC Virtual Phone (Voice Gateway Controlled, e.g. behind VG248)

Analog Phone

CTI Port

0 -DLU's

 

I suggest reading the link 

https://supportforums.cisco.com/discussion/11824511/ucl-and-vg248

 

regds,

aman

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VIP Purple

Hi Frank,Can u explain what

Hi Frank,

Can u explain what is the reason behind this  since even if u have UCL , at the backened, DLUs would work in CUCM 8.6.2?

If u are planning to upgrade to major CUCM version , then, u need to have ESW/UCSS contract and used DLUs would get converted to UCL after the mail is initiated to licensing team. 

regds,

aman

New Member

Hi Aman,Thanks for the reply

Hi Aman,

Thanks for the reply,

Currently we have only DLU license.

Used -7780

Free  - 620

 As DLU is going to eos from next january. we cant buy extra dlu bundles. 

So i need to convert our all DLU (Used and free ) to UCL but it doesn't required to upgrade cucm version.

( i guess we cant use both licence type at the same time DLU and UCL).

(clarify me if my understanding is wrong)

 

Thanks.

 

VIP Purple

Hi Frank,Before u do major

Hi Frank,

Before u do major upgarde, upload all un-unsed DLUs to Call manager. 

Secondly,if u have any free DLUs, that would get converted to UCL Enhanced/ Enhanced Plus after the major upgrade is done . This can be done only after u do successful migration to CUCM 9 or 10.

Further , if u purchase UCL now for CUCM 8 , the same would work as DLU after u upload the licenses in CUCM 8.x.

 

Un-used DLUs get converted to enhanced UCL be default if u do not mention to licensing team.

refer the link

https://communities.cisco.com/thread/41026

regds,

aman

New Member

Thanks Aman.Its mean i can

Thanks Aman.

Its mean i can use both UCL and DLU at the same time (with v.8.6). if i upload LIC-CUCM-9X-USR-A it will work as DLU (at backend)?

and another thing as ex. for cp-7942 

         with DLU license its required 4 DLU

         with UCL license its required 6 DLU (enhanced = 6DLU)      

any idea on this?

i dont have access to the above thread link.

 

Thanks

 

VIP Purple

Hi Fraank, you cannot use

Hi Fraank,

 

you cannot use this Part Code and check in Table 2

http://www.cisco.com/web/partners/downloads/partner/WWChannels/technology/ipc/downloads/UC_8_6_OG.pdf

 

for new purchases:

Start with Top Level part number R-CUCM-USR-LIC

LIC-CUCM-USR-A UCL - 1 Enhanced User, Tier A, 1-999 users
LIC-CUCM-USR-B UCL - 1 Enhanced User, Tier B, 1000-9999 users
LIC-CUCM-USR-C UCL - 1 Enhanced User, Tier C, 10,000 and greater users
LIC-CUCM-BASIC-A UCL - 1 Basic User, Tier A, 1-999 users
LIC-CUCM-BASIC-B UCL - 1 Basic User, Tier B, 1000-9999 users
LIC-CUCM-BASIC-C UCL - 1 Basic User, Tier C, 10,000 and greater users
LIC-CUCM-ESS-A UCL - 1 Essential, or an application user add-on
LIC-CUCM-ESS-B UCL - 1 Essential, or an application user add-on
LIC-CUCM-ESS-C UCL - 1 Essential, or an application user add-on

regds,

aman

New Member

thanks for the correct part

thanks for the correct part number.

Its mean i can use both UCL and DLU at the same time (with v.8.6). if i upload LIC-CUCM-USR-A it will work as DLU (at backend)?

and another thing as ex. for cp-7942 

         with DLU license its required 4 DLU

         with UCL license its required 6 DLU (enhanced = 6DLU)

 

can you pleas clarify on me above?

i need to purchase new UCL license soon also need to use existing DLUs without any conversion.

Thanks. 

 

 

VIP Purple

Hi Frank, yes, u can mix them

Hi Frank,

 

yes, u can mix them. At backened, it is all DLU till CCM 8.

 

I won't be able to comment on consumption of DLUs in UCL. 

We can wait if somebody expert on this part helps us else request u to open a new thread.

 

regds,

aman

New Member

Grate thanks Mr. Aman.your

Grate thanks Mr. Aman.

your comment is really help-full. i will order LIC-CUCM-USR-A UCL 

Thanks.

 

New Member

Hi,Just one more things to

Hi,

Just one more things to clarify.

Currently we have (20 analog phones) VG224 + cp-6901

If i use DLU+UCL at same time how license allocated with these analog and 6901 phones?

With DLU - no license required. 

With UCL - Essential required.

Thanks.

 

VIP Purple

Hi Frank,Just refer this

Hi Frank,

Just refer this discussion.In CUCM 8.x , no DLUs are consumed for analog/3905 IP phones.

https://supportforums.cisco.com/discussion/11824511/ucl-and-vg248

Further, if u are purchasing licneses for Analog /6901/3905  , u need to have UCL Essential license.

 

regds,

aman

New Member

Hi Aman,I understood what you

Hi Aman,

I understood what you mentioned above. but in my case.

Currently im using DLU and i need to purchase UCL (because DLU is going to eos). and as you told, in cucm 8.6 UCL act as a DLU at the backend (when i mixed DLU and UCL in same server ). so can we add new analog phones without (UCL-essential).

If i use only UCL i know for analog phones its required UCL-essential.

Hope you will understand my situation.

Thanks 

 

 

 

VIP Purple

Hi Frank,Analog phones/6901

Hi Frank,

Analog phones/6901 /3905 do not consume any DLUs but we need to purchase Analog phone Licneses not DLU , had it been DLU case or they were not End of Sale

 

But now it is UCL essential in CUCM 8 or CUCM 9 since DLU is end of sale.

 

Device Type - Cost in DLUs

 

Cisco VGC Phone (Voice Gateway Controlled, e.g. behind VG248)

Cisco VGC Virtual Phone (Voice Gateway Controlled, e.g. behind VG248)

Analog Phone

CTI Port

0 -DLU's

 

I suggest reading the link 

https://supportforums.cisco.com/discussion/11824511/ucl-and-vg248

 

regds,

aman

New Member

Thanks a lot Aman.everything

Thanks a lot Aman.

everything is clear

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