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Upgrade from CUCM 7.1.5 to 9.1 (No UCSS and ESW contract)

Hi,

we have CUCM 7.1.5 cluster (two servers) with no UCSS and ESW contract.

What would be the best and cheapest way to upgrade to CUCM 9.1.

We are planning to use our VMWare system and buy only CUCM 9.1 software (no servers).

Can the current DLU's be trensfered or do we have to buy everything from scratch.

Regards.

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Upgrade from CUCM 7.1.5 to 9.1 (No UCSS and ESW contract)

Deji - My friend, how have you been? Hope you are doing good!  Very nice to see you

always helping others - keep it up! (+5)

Kasper,

As my friend Deji has accurately pointed you please contact your Cisco Channel partner/Account Manager. Just wanted to add you can migrate DLU's but as with CUCM9 you have only UCL or CUWL - depending on the type of licensing you select UCL/CUWL you may need to buy some extra licenses and buy the UCSS. But having said that you can benefit from Cisco's Drive to 9 and can buy this at a really discounted price. Your Cisco representative can explain you all the options in detail.

Thanks,

Terry

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Upgrade from CUCM 7.1.5 to 9.1 (No UCSS and ESW contract)

I suggest you contact your cisco channel partner. You can migrate your DLU but you will need to purchase CUCM9.1 server licenses, obtain media etc.

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Upgrade from CUCM 7.1.5 to 9.1 (No UCSS and ESW contract)

Deji - My friend, how have you been? Hope you are doing good!  Very nice to see you

always helping others - keep it up! (+5)

Kasper,

As my friend Deji has accurately pointed you please contact your Cisco Channel partner/Account Manager. Just wanted to add you can migrate DLU's but as with CUCM9 you have only UCL or CUWL - depending on the type of licensing you select UCL/CUWL you may need to buy some extra licenses and buy the UCSS. But having said that you can benefit from Cisco's Drive to 9 and can buy this at a really discounted price. Your Cisco representative can explain you all the options in detail.

Thanks,

Terry

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Upgrade from CUCM 7.1.5 to 9.1 (No UCSS and ESW contract)

Terry, I am well thank you. Long time! Thanks for the nice rating.

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Upgrade from CUCM 7.1.5 to 9.1 (No UCSS and ESW contract)

Thanx to both of you for taking the time to respond.

Aparently we can migrate to a new version after we buy MIG-CUCM-USR-A and MIG-CUCM-BASIC-A licenses (acording to the number of respective phones) and UCSS and ESW.

How does this exactly work? Do we give cisco our current licensing MAC address and they see how many DLU's we have or do we have to do something on the current servers to export the licenses? What about unused DLU's?

And in short what exactly is the difference between UCSS and ESW?

Regards.

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Upgrade from CUCM 7.1.5 to 9.1 (No UCSS and ESW contract)

Hi

   Please refer the below links for more information,

https://communities.cisco.com/docs/DOC-33806

https://communities.cisco.com/docs/DOC-30825

Please rate if this helps

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Upgrade from CUCM 7.1.5 to 9.1 (No UCSS and ESW contract)


Kasper,

How does this exactly work?

The link Kaja has posted contains answers to most of your queries. +5 to Kaja.

 Do we give cisco our current licensing  MAC address and they see how many DLU's we have or do we have to do  something on the current servers to export the licenses? What about  unused DLU's?

Yes you provide Cisco with license mac and they can provide you the review. Alternatively you can also download LCU (windows based utility tool) and it will run a report which you can also provide to Cisco. Unused DLUs are explained in the link Kaja provided (top one)

Again for all the above process your Cisco representative should be able to guide you through.

And in short what exactly is the difference between UCSS and ESW?

ESW - Its like smartnet. You get TAC support and get minor upgrades with this.

UCSS - This entitles you to do major upgrades free of cost.

Terry

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Upgrade from CUCM 7.1.5 to 9.1 (No UCSS and ESW contract)

Thank you!

And regarding the licenses. What kind of license do we need in order to be able to have a desk phone AND jabber mobile for talks (Have the same extension on the desk phone and on the jabber mobile client)? Enhanced, Enhanced plus or maybe CUWL license?

Re: Upgrade from CUCM 7.1.5 to 9.1 (No UCSS and ESW contract)

For using Jabber mobile if you go with UCL - you wil need enhanced/enhanced plus. Or you can use CUWL std or pro both. Choose the licensing type based on your needs keeping in mind the future path of your organization. If you go UCL you will need to buy add on licenses for voicemail, webex etc. If you choose CUWL Professional for every user you buy one license - which enables them to use phone, voicemail, webex, jabber etc. Choose according to your needs, now is the time you can upgrade the licensing as you will benefit from discounted prices.

Below tables show the details:

Refer:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/voicesw/ps6882/ps9156/product_solution_overview0900aecd806cc7a4.pdf

Please rate all helpful posts and mark the thread as answered if this resolves your queries.

Terry

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Upgrade from CUCM 7.1.5 to 9.1 (No UCSS and ESW contract)

Thank you Terry.

You said we need enhanced/enhanced plus for jabber mobile. What is the difference between the two? If we want the same extension on the deskphone AND on jabber mobile at the same time then we have to buy enhanced plus or is enhanced license enough?

best regards.

Re: Upgrade from CUCM 7.1.5 to 9.1 (No UCSS and ESW contract)

Not a problem Kasper. Enhanced PLUS is same as Enhanced but just supports two devices. Please see the second table I had inserted in my previous post. If you just want one phone and a Jabber mobile you can go with UCL Enhanced.

Terry

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Upgrade from CUCM 7.1.5 to 9.1 (No UCSS and ESW contract)

Hi Terry,

The "two devices" part is thing that is confusing me. Aren't the deskphone and the jabber mobile client used at the same time two devices?

Re: Upgrade from CUCM 7.1.5 to 9.1 (No UCSS and ESW contract)

Kasper,

Device means phone. Jabber is not counted as a device its a soft client. Its inluced in the enhanced on top of one device i.e one phone.

Terry

Upgrade from CUCM 7.1.5 to 9.1 (No UCSS and ESW contract)

Hi Kasper,

Please let us know if you have any further queries or you can mark the thread as answered.

Terry

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Upgrade from CUCM 7.1.5 to 9.1 (No UCSS and ESW contract)

Terry Cheema wrote:

Kasper,

Device means phone. Jabber is not counted as a device its a soft client. Its inluced in the enhanced on top of one device i.e one phone.

Terry

What about IP communicator? Is that considered a Phone or soft client?

Regards.

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Upgrade from CUCM 7.1.5 to 9.1 (No UCSS and ESW contract)

Terry Cheema wrote:

Kasper,

Device means phone. Jabber is not counted as a device its a soft client. Its inluced in the enhanced on top of one device i.e one phone.

Terry

Terry I just tested this on a demo installation of CUCM 9.1. Adding an IP communicator and a Cisco Dual Mode for Android to a user says that an Enhanced Plus license is consumed. If I don't assign the

Cisco Dual Mode for Android to a user then an Enhanced license is consumed fot that device.

Re: Upgrade from CUCM 7.1.5 to 9.1 (No UCSS and ESW contract)

Hi Kasper,

Yes thats the correct behavior, CIPC will consume an enhanced license. Its counted in the devices but as I already said Jabber client is included on top of the device.

Terry

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Upgrade from CUCM 7.1.5 to 9.1 (No UCSS and ESW contract)

Terry Cheema wrote:

Hi Kasper,

Yes thats the correct behavior, CIPC will consume an enhanced license. Its counted in the devices but as I already said Jabber client is included on top of the device.

Terry

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Yes but as I said adding CIPC and Cisco Dual Mode for Android to a user consumes Enhanced Plus license for that user.

If I don't associate the Cisco Dual Mode for Android for the user that an additional Enhanced license is spent for the Cisco Dual Mode for Android. Am I doing something wrong?

New Member

Upgrade from CUCM 7.1.5 to 9.1 (No UCSS and ESW contract)

I saw this thread as I've been trying to establish answers to similar questions.

I'm assuming an Enhanced covers a desk phone and Jabber IM/Presence, but not Jabber voice/video (desktop or mobile) at the same time as the phone? Is that correct?

I would have thought that is classed as 2 devices and requires Enhanced Plus, but really I am unsure.

So if a user has a desk phone and wants to use full jabber both on a desktop and mobile, what license would we need for each user?

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Upgrade from CUCM 7.1.5 to 9.1 (No UCSS and ESW contract)

Terry looking at the chart you posted I see that for analog devices Essential licenses are needed.

Currently we have a VG224 voice gateway and the licensing tab in CUCM says that there are 22 Analog devices but no DLU's are consumed.

Do we need Essential licenses for those devices?

Regards.

Upgrade from CUCM 7.1.5 to 9.1 (No UCSS and ESW contract)

Kasper - Yes you need essential licenses, each analog port on a Cisco VG224 Analog Voice Gateway consumes a unit in the license file.

New Member

Upgrade from CUCM 7.1.5 to 9.1 (No UCSS and ESW contract)

OK thank you

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