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Auto Negotiation Issue

Using a 3750V2 switch leaving the port set to the default ‘auto’ most (70%-80%) connected nodes negotiate at 100 / Half or 10 / Half. Only a few negotiate to Full duplex.

What would cause this type of behavior? The nodes range from Dell, HP, computers, along with Sharp and HP Printers.

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Purple

Auto Negotiation Issue

  That means most devices have their nics hardcoded to a speed/duplex and not set as auto/auto . 

Gold

Auto Negotiation Issue

hi,

are you sure your attached devices are set to auto negiotiate and they are not running at half duplex mode?

3750 ports configure themselves to operate at the speed of attached devices. if it is possible try changin the port of a device which successfully uses 100 full duplex with another half duplex port n see if things change or remain the same.

it is probabely something about the nodes.

plz Rate if it helped.

Soroush.

Hope it Helps!

Soroush.
Hall of Fame Super Gold

Auto Negotiation Issue

I'll agree with Glen here.  There are only two events why the switch (like a recent generation 3750v2) will negotiate to half duplex.  And they are:

1.  When the remote end client(s) have configured the duplex settings manually; or

2.  When dealing with old clients or clients with old NIC firmwares.

Hall of Fame Super Silver

Auto Negotiation Issue

There is at least one more reason why the switch goes to half duplex when it is configured to negotiate duplex. If the switch is configured to negotiate speed and the negotiation of speed is not successful then the switch will go to half duplex.

HTH

Rick

Hall of Fame Super Gold

Auto Negotiation Issue

There is at least one more reason why the switch goes to half duplex when it is configured to negotiate duplex. If the switch is configured to negotiate speed and the negotiation of speed is not successful then the switch will go to half duplex. 

True.  Very true.

Curious though ... would this happen only to old NICs and/or firmwares or have you seen this event in newer clients? 

Hall of Fame Super Silver

Auto Negotiation Issue

This behavior is not limited to old clients. I have seen this behavior with recent clients. In fact I was looking at an incident where we saw this behavior on Friday.

HTH

Rick

Hall of Fame Super Gold

Auto Negotiation Issue

This behavior is not limited to old clients. I have seen this behavior with recent clients. In fact I was looking at an incident where we saw this behavior on Friday.

Hmmmm ... I'll keep a lookout.

I do remember a number of new HP desktops, when users log out, the interface negotiate to 10/half.

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Re:Auto Negotiation Issue

I found this to be true. The last network person was setting the client devices to 100MB full duplex. Was a nortel environment. Even hard coding to 100 full would let it go to half duplex?

I will change some back to auto/auto on Monday when I get back to work.

Thanks

Hall of Fame Super Gold

Auto Negotiation Issue

Even hard coding to 100 full would let it go to half duplex?

In some cases if you hardcode the speed and duplex setting at both sides, you will run the risk of CRC line errors.

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Auto Negotiation Issue

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Phil Robertson wrote:

I found this to be true. The last network person was setting the client devices to 100MB full duplex. Was a nortel environment. Even hard coding to 100 full would let it go to half duplex?

If the other side is auto/auto, that interface should go to half duplex.

What would be abnormal, one side 100/full and and the other auto/auto, the auto side dropping to 10 Mbps too.

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