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Cisco Router for class B network

Arpanet2013
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Hello to everybody, I'm so glad to join this community.

I'm planning a class B network, so I got few questions about:

-Which cisco router could be the best choice?

-Which class of Ip range to choice? I was thinking about 172.16.0.x with 4 subnets, 4096 host per subnet and host range starting from 172.16.0.x to 172.16.63.x Is a reliable choice for your opinion?

Thanks in advance

Emiliano

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mfurnival
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Hi,

There is no correlation between router model and class of networks that you use. Router model choice should be based on throughput, interface types, performance, features required etc.

As for subnetting - it all depends on what you are trying to achieve. Decide how many subnets and how many hosts per subnet you need and go from there. A good subnet calculator will save you some time. I use this site:

http://www.subnetonline.com/pages/subnet-calculators/ip-subnet-calculator.php

maybe I was not clear enough.

It's obvious there's any kind of relationship between router and ip mapping.

I just asked if someone has tried any Cisco router into class B networks to make my choice more clear!

Then I asked an explanation about ip mapping for a class B network, divided into 2 subnets. I need 4096 hosts per subnet.

I was thinking and calcuting 172.16.0.x with 255.255.0.0

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It's obvious there's any kind of relationship between router and ip mapping.

No it's really not obvious.  I agree with mfurnival.  Right now I work in an environment where we have routers from 871s up to 7600s all on the same class A network.  Router selection mainly depends on the "work", usually forwarding performance, requirement.  Size of the address space usually matters little to nothing.  Number of routes matters, but unless you're carrying all Internet routes, most modern L3 devices will easily handle the number of routes you're likely to have.

I need 4096 hosts per subnet.

4k hosts on a subnet is often too many due to broadcast scalability issues.  However, much depends on what the hosts are doing and what's the underlying physical network.  Usually you should be cautious exceeding a /24.  (Sometime even a /24 is too large too.)

It's a big wireless network for my town. I need 1000-2000 ip addresses for client's CPE.

Every node has 4 sectorial 5ghz antennas and 1 router for ip distribution.

One 1900 series is into my core network for WAN.

So what's your advice Joseph?

thanks in advance

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Again, router (or perhaps a L3 switch) selection would be mostly based on expected work load and feature requirements.  Knowing there are 1k to 2k client addresses doesn't answer how many or likely to be actually live or how busy the each host will be.

Since you now mention using wireless, that can change things for sizing subnets.  In my environment we have both interior Enterprise wireless and external VPN clients.  Both use much larger subnet address blocks then we typically use for our wired host and both don't physically broadcast to other hosts on the same subnet.  Whether you wireless would be similar, I don't know.

I'm attaching a Cisco documents that discusses ISR performance under different usage conditions.

Typically, 4k hosts per subnet, as already suggested by Joseph, can be problematic.

4k hosts per subnet is 172.16.0/20 (255.255.240.0), next subnet is 172.16.16/20.

 Since you are using private IP address range main challenge for router, most likely, will be NAT (enough CPU power (if natting will be performed by this router)). Generally, any enterprise grade router is capable to be configured with class B IP address range. RV320 mentioned previously is targeting Small office/Home office.

There is a correlation between Cisco router models and class of networks supported.  I have a Cisco RV320, and IT DOES NOT SUPPORT any subnetting above Class C.  A very disappointing fact indeed.  Especially when a $24 TP-Link 300M Wireless N Router (Model No. TL-WR841N) supports Class A-C.

 

What is worse, is Cisco's lack of explicitness when it comes to informing its buyers which network classes are supported by which router models.  I made the mistake of assuming my existing RV320 supported any network class I saw fit to incorporate, bought a second RV320 to configure as a Class A network to swap in after testing, then discovered the RV320 SUPPORTS ONLY Class C subnetting.

 

I am very disappointed and do not even know how to verify my next router purchase from Cisco will support the network class I require.

 

Attached is a screenshot of the subnet configuration screen for my Cisco RV320.  As can be seen, subnetting is limited to Class C.  I have searched Internet chatter only to find the same disgruntled conclusions.

 

Jason

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