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flexstack vs no flex stack

I have two L3 swithcs and one L2 switch.

The first isp router is connecte to one of the L3 switch, the second isp router is connected to the other L3 switch.

There is a OSPF configuration in both switchs and the routers. Each router connection to the switch is via routed port (no switchport).

I want to know what is better between stack both L3 switchs or not. see the attached picture.

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Generally, stacking the devices, if supported, offers many advantages.  The biggest disadvantages might be you can't easily have two versions of software (i.e. different version on the different separate devices) running nor often bounce one device while running traffic through the other.

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In addition to Joe's comments, with stacking, you eliminate the use of spanning tree. So, your L2 switch would uplink to both 3750s (stacked) via an Etherchannel.

HTH

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Reza Sharifi wrote:

In addition to Joe's comments, with stacking, you eliminate the use of spanning tree. So, your L2 switch would uplink to both 3750s (stacked) via an Etherchannel.

HTH

To clarify what I think Reza intended, Etherchannel to a stack negates the need for STP for intentional L2 loops (redundancy) but you might still need STP to avoid accidental L2 loops.

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Generally, stacking the devices, if supported, offers many advantages.  The biggest disadvantages might be you can't easily have two versions of software (i.e. different version on the different separate devices) running nor often bounce one device while running traffic through the other.

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flexstack vs no flex stack

what about the timeout if the master switch fail?.

what is the impact on the ospf convergence?.

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flexstack vs no flex stack

Good question

for fastest OSPF convergence in case the master fails, you need to deploy

stack-mac persistent timer 0

more info here:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/lan/catalyst3750/software/release/12.2_44_se/command/reference/cli3.html#wp3222299

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rafaeljimenez wrote:

what about the timeout if the master switch fail?.

what is the impact on the ospf convergence?.

There may be some, although NSF/SSO features should minimize master failure's impact.  Separate L3 switches, with p2p links would likely be a little faster yet in your diagram you're also connecting L2 switches.  Good chance a gateway change on separate L3 switches would take longer than Etherchannel (as mentioned by Reza).

I didn't list all the pros and cons, it's possible some con would be so important to you a stack would not be suitable, but for most, the stack's pros usually outweigh their cons.

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flexstack vs no flex stack

In addition to Joe's comments, with stacking, you eliminate the use of spanning tree. So, your L2 switch would uplink to both 3750s (stacked) via an Etherchannel.

HTH

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Reza Sharifi wrote:

In addition to Joe's comments, with stacking, you eliminate the use of spanning tree. So, your L2 switch would uplink to both 3750s (stacked) via an Etherchannel.

HTH

To clarify what I think Reza intended, Etherchannel to a stack can utilize bandwidth often blocked by spanning tree, but spanning tree generally should not be disabled as it can block accidental L2 loops.  In other words there's still need for spanning tree, but not necessarily to support intentional redundancy as you would without a stack.

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Reza Sharifi wrote:

In addition to Joe's comments, with stacking, you eliminate the use of spanning tree. So, your L2 switch would uplink to both 3750s (stacked) via an Etherchannel.

HTH

To clarify what I think Reza intended, Etherchannel to a stack negates the need for STP for intentional L2 loops (redundancy) but you might still need STP to avoid accidental L2 loops.

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