07-19-2013 10:19 AM - edited 03-07-2019 02:30 PM
Hello
We trying to work up a new plan for adding on additional building with 3 floors Part of the new structure would be a dedicated space for the IT dept.
We are going to have only 4 switches ( 3560 and 3750 series) with patch panels. No servers
I need a suggestion with the following
- What should be rack size ?
- What should be recommended room size and space allocation ?
- Air Condiitioning and Air Flow
Any tips appreciated
Thanks
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07-20-2013 06:43 AM
Hi Samir,
No Need of UPS- I suggest you revisit this. As already mentioned by Jason, normally there is a time lag before office/building generator kicks in. So I would recommend go for a 1.5K UPS (or less if budget is tight) to cover that time or else the switches may experience a crash.
Rack- you can go with a low price 24U 2post rack. Make sure to check the weitght support in the specifications.
http://www.racksolutions.com/relay-racks.html
Space: The above link also lists Rack dimensions. To that, add few more sq ft for techs to move around and based on switch dimentsions.
Cooling: All you need is a small system. Check the below link and also google for less capacity unit availabiliy.
On the other hand if they can run vents to the room from office/user space AC that will do as well, but make sure that runs during weekends/vacation days as well (some firms programme shuch a way there is minimal or no AC during weekends)
At the end, whatever you choose in terms of room space and cooling make sure to run those numbers by your contractors.
hth
MS
07-19-2013 11:51 AM
Hi Samir,
Here are my thoughts..
Cabinet/network rack :
4 switches - 4U
Each 24port panel : 1U, so 4switches requires total 8U for patch panels (48 port switches).
Up links from DC- ex: Fiber and ethernet back up - add another 2U.
UPS in the rack upto 4U
This gives you- 18U. This is just a sample and it can change if you want to add more HW in future.
I think you can get a 30U rack cabinet. Can go by 24U as well, but its your choice.
Space: Go with Rack dimensions + one of two ppl should be able to move freely.
AC/Air Flow: Give the switch & UPS heat dessipation information to elctrical contractor, they should be able to get you correct specs on this.
hth
MS
07-19-2013 01:21 PM
Hi mvsheikh123,
Thanks for your inputs
No need for UPS since they will be connected to emergency power or generators.
I will use 48port patch panel means 8U
4 Switches means 4U
Space Can you suggest standard cabinet rack dimensions required.
AC/Air Flow: Still i am confused. I have decide my recommendations then I will give them.
Thanks
Samir
07-20-2013 06:43 AM
Hi Samir,
No Need of UPS- I suggest you revisit this. As already mentioned by Jason, normally there is a time lag before office/building generator kicks in. So I would recommend go for a 1.5K UPS (or less if budget is tight) to cover that time or else the switches may experience a crash.
Rack- you can go with a low price 24U 2post rack. Make sure to check the weitght support in the specifications.
http://www.racksolutions.com/relay-racks.html
Space: The above link also lists Rack dimensions. To that, add few more sq ft for techs to move around and based on switch dimentsions.
Cooling: All you need is a small system. Check the below link and also google for less capacity unit availabiliy.
On the other hand if they can run vents to the room from office/user space AC that will do as well, but make sure that runs during weekends/vacation days as well (some firms programme shuch a way there is minimal or no AC during weekends)
At the end, whatever you choose in terms of room space and cooling make sure to run those numbers by your contractors.
hth
MS
07-20-2013 04:16 PM
hi mvsheikh123 and other experts
Thanks for your clarifications.
Now I have thought to for switch rack with 24u with dimension 600 cm x 800 cm and I meter for personnel and air flow.
I am thinking to for 2m x 2m room space.
I will ask the contractor to run vents to the room from centralize AC
Finally a UPS with 1.5K
Would that be OK ?
Thanks
07-21-2013 02:11 AM
Hi Samir,
2M is little over 6ft- so that sounds right. Also, when you place the rack, make sure the door to the room opens freely (some of the rooms have doors opens inwards). For UPS, try to get network interface card as well.
All the best and please mark this discussion answered, so that someone with similar requirements can review.
Thx
MS
07-19-2013 11:59 AM
Hi,
What should be rack size ?
If all your switches are going to one rack, you only 4RU space since each one is only 1RU.
So, you can get half size cabinet and put all of them in there
http://www.tripplite.com/en/products/model.cfm?txtSeriesID=757&txtModelID=4733
What should be recommended room size and space allocation ?
Air Condiitioning and Air Flow
see table-2 in this link:
HTH
07-19-2013 12:55 PM
Telecommunication Industry Association (TIA) Standard 569 covers pathways and spaces for commercial and multi-tenant spaces. Specifically, TIA-569-B-1 covers temperature and humidity requirements. Here is a link to purchase the standards:
http://www.tiaonline.org/standards/buy-tia-standards
You may be able to find them elsewhere.
07-19-2013 05:07 PM
Our generator requires that we keep the devices up for 6 seconds before it is live. Does your have a similar constraint?
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07-20-2013 02:07 PM
As mvsheik suggests you need space to move around. If a standard 2 post rack takes up a 2x2 ft square, and you only have 1, you need to place the rack in the center of a 6x6 or 36 sq ft space. That will give plenty of room for personnel and air flow.
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