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Qos issue

Hi Guys,

I am facing severe issue with LAN Qos. There two C3750 switches at different locations with a 1 GBPS TRUNK from telco. This trunk carries customer Layer 2 traffic ( VLAN's including management traffic, data - voice traffic, BGP between the two etc). Customer L3 switch is connected back on one of the ports i.e. one L3 at each location. Here in this set up BGP looses session each time utilization reaches 600 - 800 Mb. I have queue set applied on the interface but I guess it needs to be further tweaked. Have you faced such issues ? Need your inputs on how can I make peering stable.

   

      Queue set                                   Queue set

(Sw1) ---------------1Gig Trunk ----------------------- (Sw2)

    |                                                                |

    |    Queue set                                             |    Queue set

(L3)                                                            (L3)

Best regards,

Santosh

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Re: Qos issue

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3750 queue sets deal with buffer resource allocations, but bandwidth ratios are set per interface.

You need to insure your queuing model/policy "protects" your BGP traffic.  On a traditional router, you might use CBWFQ and devote a special queue (with small bandwidth guarantee) for your routing protocol.  On something like a 3750, since you only have 4 hardware queues to work with, you might be unable to devote one of those queue just for your routing protocol but whatever queue you do use should have enough bandwidth reservation to insure your routing protocol gets the bandwidth it requires.  The latter could be done by insuring that queue has sufficient bandwidth to carry all the traffic in that queue (i.e. including other than routing protocol traffic) or you could use WTD to insure other traffic in that queue is dropped before your routing protocol traffic (i.e. leaving enough bandwidth for your routing protocol).

PS:

It's been a while since I've tuned BGP, but it might be possible to tune BGP to make it a little more robust during transient congestion.

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Qos issue

if you want to use QoS to resolve this problem, you could create a class for bgp and give it a little priority over other traffic.

access-list 150 permit tcp any eq bgp any            << bgp port# 179

access-list 150 permit tcp any any eq bgp

class match-all BGP

match access-group 150

!

policy-map BGP

  class BGP

    priority percent 10

  class class-default   << set your other traffic queue, bandwith or... parameters under this, if any!

    fair-queue

!

interface gi0/1

   service-policy out BGP

!

hope this solution with QoS helps or you could fine tune ur bgp.

pls Rate if it helped.

Soroush.

Hope it Helps, Soroush.
Super Bronze

Re: Qos issue

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What Soroush posted could assist BGP in keeping its connection "up", however some QoS usage notes: you wouldn't normally place BGP into LLQ as its latency requirements aren't as stringent as, for example, VoIP; you would likely find allowing BGP to participate in just class-default's FQ might be sufficient "protection"; 3750's don't support egress CBWFQ.

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Re: Qos issue

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3750 queue sets deal with buffer resource allocations, but bandwidth ratios are set per interface.

You need to insure your queuing model/policy "protects" your BGP traffic.  On a traditional router, you might use CBWFQ and devote a special queue (with small bandwidth guarantee) for your routing protocol.  On something like a 3750, since you only have 4 hardware queues to work with, you might be unable to devote one of those queue just for your routing protocol but whatever queue you do use should have enough bandwidth reservation to insure your routing protocol gets the bandwidth it requires.  The latter could be done by insuring that queue has sufficient bandwidth to carry all the traffic in that queue (i.e. including other than routing protocol traffic) or you could use WTD to insure other traffic in that queue is dropped before your routing protocol traffic (i.e. leaving enough bandwidth for your routing protocol).

PS:

It's been a while since I've tuned BGP, but it might be possible to tune BGP to make it a little more robust during transient congestion.

Gold

Qos issue

if you want to use QoS to resolve this problem, you could create a class for bgp and give it a little priority over other traffic.

access-list 150 permit tcp any eq bgp any            << bgp port# 179

access-list 150 permit tcp any any eq bgp

class match-all BGP

match access-group 150

!

policy-map BGP

  class BGP

    priority percent 10

  class class-default   << set your other traffic queue, bandwith or... parameters under this, if any!

    fair-queue

!

interface gi0/1

   service-policy out BGP

!

hope this solution with QoS helps or you could fine tune ur bgp.

pls Rate if it helped.

Soroush.

Hope it Helps, Soroush.
Super Bronze

Re: Qos issue

Disclaimer

The  Author of this posting offers the information contained within this  posting without consideration and with the reader's understanding that  there's no implied or expressed suitability or fitness for any purpose.  Information provided is for informational purposes only and should not  be construed as rendering professional advice of any kind. Usage of this  posting's information is solely at reader's own risk.

Liability Disclaimer

In  no event shall Author be liable for any damages whatsoever (including,  without limitation, damages for loss of use, data or profit) arising out  of the use or inability to use the posting's information even if Author  has been advised of the possibility of such damage.

Posting

What Soroush posted could assist BGP in keeping its connection "up", however some QoS usage notes: you wouldn't normally place BGP into LLQ as its latency requirements aren't as stringent as, for example, VoIP; you would likely find allowing BGP to participate in just class-default's FQ might be sufficient "protection"; 3750's don't support egress CBWFQ.

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Qos issue

Hi Joseph, Techies,

Can we use CPP (control plane policing)? I am not sure but just a guess.

Regards,

Santosh

Super Bronze

Qos issue

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Liability Disclaimer

In   no event shall Author be liable for any damages whatsoever (including,   without limitation, damages for loss of use, data or profit) arising  out  of the use or inability to use the posting's information even if  Author  has been advised of the possibility of such damage.

Posting

CoPP might be useful if the problem was consumption of CPU, such that your BGP couldn't be maintained.  However, from your description, it would seem more likely the BGP packets might be lost during congestion.

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