RSTP + Stack

[lepavelcisco]

Hey all,

I have a wired set up, maybe you can help me to understand 2 things.

I have 2 3750X in a stack.

then I have 5 unmanaged switched connected to the stack.

Each unmanaged switched has 2 ports to the 3750X Stack( one to switch 1 and one to switch 2)

I have rapid spanning tree, with the stack as root. 5 Vlans for each unmanaged switched + L3 int vlan for each vlan and lo0 int.

I don't use dynamic routing. Just running unicast and multicast (lo0 is RP).

everything works fine.

1. rapid spanning  tree convergence, if i take one of the unmanaged switched. disconnected port 1 to 3750X 1. It takes 30 seconds until the  other port starts to forward. when I reconnect it takes 1 second till the original port started to forward.

Is that logical it takes 30 second for RSTP to converge in this type of setup?

2. I have disconnected the stack cables while switches were running. what happened is that every switch run the same configuration still connected to my set up. after a few minutes I got duplicated IP messages on my 2 3750X.

And I was expecting that muticast and unicast will start to drop , but all was still working.

Had full multicast and unicast connectivity over 3 vlans with 2 hosts and multicast streamer source.

Is that logical? 

hope you have any ideas or insights.

[Joseph W. Doherty]

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Taking number 2 first, breaking the stack, while the switches are still active, places two L3 switches on the network thinking they are the same switch.  The assumption with a stack is a stack member  fails, not that the stack partitions.  One of the reasons there's two stack connections, is to avoid the situation you've created if one stack port or one stack cable fails.

Taking number 1, I would first think fail over would be faster, but then I'm thinking that should be true if your downstream switches were also running RSTP.  Since you say they are not managed, I assume they are not running RSTP.  This might account for the slower STP convergence.  It's something I would have to think about.  Also whether something like portfast on the trunk would help (which might not be possible with your topology).

[lepavelcisco]

Well for STP problem solved with MST.

spanning-tree mode mst

spanning-tree mst configuration

instance 1 vlan 1-4094

spanning-tree mst 1 root primary

spanning-tree mst forward-time 6

This gets me to 17 seconds convergence time.

can tweak more but 17 is good.

[Joseph W. Doherty]

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Posting

Interesting, because rapid-STP and MST, I believe, are very much alike.

I presume the key to your decreased convergence is the line you've highlighted.

I haven't looked, but no similar option for rapid-STP?

[lepavelcisco]

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/switches/lan/catalyst2950/software/release/12-1_11_yj4/configuration/guide/lrescg/swmstp.html#wp1034497

did not find anything in rapid-STP compared to MST.

also, I was trying to avoid touching hello or max age timer.(no major reason for that)