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Wi-Fi

Can you please advise which cisco solution for wifi is better for bigger office.
I am looking to implement on two floors.
Thanks

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VIP Purple

Re: Wi-Fi

HI Mohammad,

Just in short:

for what purpose you want to use ...like for guest or employees  or?

OInly for production area or ?

You can use Controller based solution : You need to buy a controller(2504 or 5508) and Cisco AP (2600 or as per ur requirment)

1. Plan ur requirments

2. Make a site survey.(Survey will show that how many AP u need ...)

3. Then deploy.

Regards

New Member

Re: Wi-Fi

Hi Sandeep,

We have already got two wifi routers serving for employees and guest but connection drops and sometimes out of range. I want to replace it with better and reliable system.


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New Member

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Do I need to buy WLC ? Is it a better way to implement wireless network? Would AP serve production and guest network simultaneously?

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Hall of Fame Super Silver

Re: Wi-Fi

If you have the budget... Then yes, it's the best way to implement wireless these days. You will be able to manage all AP's from the WLC and not have to manage each AP. Roaming and many of the newer features are also available when implementing a WLC.

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VIP Purple

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HI Mohammed,

If you have enough budget then it is the best solution.

Benifits of WLC:

  • Provides both real-time and historical information about RF interference
  • If you have WLC then you dont need to configure anything to AP(zero touch configuration).
  • Manage all AP via WLC

....any many more.

Regards

New Member

Re: Wi-Fi

So am I ok to assume One AP can support Production and Guest both?

How and where I should get the quote from for WLC and two or three APs?

Any recommendation?

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Wi-Fi

How and where I should get the quote from

Because we don't know what country you are in, we do not know who the authorized Cisco resellers in that country are.  So instead, you'll have to search and choose for yourself.  Go here to search:  http://tools.cisco.com/WWChannels/LOCATR/openBasicSearch.do

WLC and two or three APs?

You won't know how many APs you will need unless you are able to get a wireless site survey done.  Do that, and you'll be able to determine how many APs you need.

Next, Cisco has a lot of models for the AP.  I recommend you go here:  http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5678/Products_Sub_Category_Home.html

Search for the AP you are interested in.  I would recommend you DO NOT pick the 1600.

For the WLC, since you won't need anything in excess of 75 APs, I'd recommend you look into the WLC 2504.

New Member

Re: Wi-Fi

All I can think I need 3 but I would try to buy two see if they cover both floors.

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Is there any way I could do survey myself?

I am based in Lancashire (UK).

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Hall of Fame Super Gold

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Is there any way I could do survey myself?

If you don't know what you are doing, how can you do a wireless site survey yourself?

If you'd like, get a floor done and watch (and learn) the person doing it like a hawk.   If you are confident enough, do the second floor yourself.

I am based in Lancashire (UK).

There are a lot of UK-based authorized Cisco reseller.  All you have to do is look for them youself.

One key bit when you are asking for a quote:  It is very, very important you SPECIFICALLY tell the vendor the country you will want to install the AP.  This is very important because if you or the vendor gets the wrong regulatory domain, you MAY NOT be able to get your AP to become operational.

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Re: Wi-Fi

What is the other option? Single APs on each floor without WLC. It would not harm if it works if not we only have to invest in WLC.
One thing I would like to ask can one AP provide both Guest and for employees?

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Wi-Fi

One thing I would like to ask can one AP provide both Guest and for employees?

Of course it can.  Nearly everyone asks this scenario in the wireless forum. 

New Member

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Is there a good AP you could think of, if it does not achieve our goal then we could go for WLC and use same AP.

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Wi-Fi

Is there a good AP you could think of, if it does not achieve our goal then we could go for WLC and use same AP.

Mohammed,

Read my first response to this thread.  It will contain a link of all available AP models and my recommendation. 

New Member

Re: Wi-Fi

Hi Leo/Sandeep,

We have decided not to go for WLC but only Wireless Access Points.

My office is 70 Meters X 70 Meters and I had a look at this Access Point plus 3700

http://www.cisco.com/cisco/web/UK/solutions/small_business/products/wireless/500_series_wireless_access_points/index.html

I was thinking more future proof as well as better mid range.

New Member

Re: Wi-Fi

Hi guys,

Can you please advise?

I called Cisco Pre Sales UK and told them my requirements and no one got back to me.

Thanks

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VIP Purple

Re: Wi-Fi

Hi Mohammed,

As we tolad you earlier.

WLC based solution is best because U can manage AP, you do not need to configure anything on AP.

WLC will manage RF, power level, DCA...all automatically.

Better to go for:

1. Site survey with the help of any experts.

2. Then plan how many APs u need.

Go for 2504 WLC.

Regards

New Member

Re: Wi-Fi

Hi Sandeep,
It has come down to IT budget and I have measured the floor distance as I mentioned in my previous post. I would like to avoid extra cost for WLC and get only AP.
It would suit our budget to just get AP for now if we need to go over two access point we may take a look at WLC.
Can you pls advise which are better for my requirement?

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VIP Purple

Re: Wi-Fi

HI Mohammed,

First of all, the below link shows the AP comparison:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/wireless/ps5678/ps10981/at_a_glance_c45-636090.pdf

Example 1042 AP: It  also Depends.  What are the users going to be doing?  If they are just doing some web and email, you could expect ~5,000 sqft of coverage and probably 20-30 users to work ok.   If they are doing voice, video, or high bandwidth applications, you'll get less.

Thats the reason we are telling you to do a proper site survey with all your requirments.

Then only you can find the out: which AP u need.

Regards

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New Member

Re: Wi-Fi

Thanks Sandeep. Can I use 2600 series without WLC .
What is client link client count mean.
Are these all dual network supported?

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VIP Purple

Re: Wi-Fi

HI Mohammed,

As per my last post.

Its all up to ur requirements, what u want to access via wireless and how many AP u need, 2600 series AP are avilabale in both version(CAPWAP and Standalone).

More about 2600 Series AP:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/wireless/ps5678/ps12534/data_sheet_c78-709514.html

Cisco Wireless ClientLink 3.0 Technology

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/wireless/ps5678/ps11983/at_a_glance_c45-691984.pdf

Regards

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New Member

Re: Wi-Fi

Hi,
I have been thinking to purchase 2 cisco 3602i AP standalone. Would it be possible to configure these 2 APs so users can move different floors seamlessly without any any interruption.

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VIP Purple

Re: Wi-Fi

HI Mohaammed,

yes, this is totally possible. if you are using a PSK, then all you need to do is configure the AP exactly the same way, with the exception of the IP address on the BVI interface. So long as the ssid and encryption are the same, and there is overlap between the cells the client should roam between the AP.

or

if you are using 802.1x, then you would want to configure WDS for the key caching.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/wireless/ps4570/products_configuration_example09186a00801c951f.shtml#step1

Regards

VIP Purple

Re: Wi-Fi

Hi Mohammed,

Be aware:

In the 15.2(2)JA release, Cisco supports running autonomous IOS (aIOS)  only in "site survey" mode on the 3500, 3600 and 1550 Series Access  Points.

https://supportforums.cisco.com/docs/DOC-20537

Regards

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Re: Wi-Fi

Does it mean I can have guest wifi on the same ap. All our internal employees can use 802.1x Active directory or Psk?


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VIP Purple

Wi-Fi

Yes you can have two SSIDs, one on management vlan (vlan x) and one in guest vlan (vlan y).

Thats depends on you, how youw ant to authenticate internal iusers and guests.

Regards

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Re: Wi-Fi

Do I need to create VLAN for guest on our Switches to provide guest Wi-Fi? Can 2600 series access point provide Guest DHCP addresses without VLAN on the production switches?


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New Member

Re: Wi-Fi

Hi guys,

I have a question again :). I have no layer 3 switch only Asa5505. What would be the best idea to enable Guest Wi-Fi on 2602i access point and keep it separate from Employee subnet?

Is there any solution or is 2602i can deal guest dhcp and route traffic on the internet without the need of layer3.

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