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How to Schedule TMS devices to dial external MCU meeting rooms?

Hi All,

 

Is it possible to schedule internal devices registered to an internal TMS to dial to an external MCU meeting room?

 

If so, how would one go about doing it?

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All depends on how the

All depends on how the external site configures the dial-in options, URI dialling, MCU_conference_number@domain, or if the MCU conferences are not registered with a GK and/or SIP proxy; dial the IP address of the Auto Attendant, then navigate to the relevant conference using FEC or DTMF.

You schedule it in TMS as per normal, using "External" and "dial out", just like any other external site.

/jens

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Thanks for the information,

Thanks for the information,

 

That part I understand, let me give more information.

 

When scheduling one internal device and adding the external MCU cridentials as an external system works perfect.

 

My problem is that I have a couple of devices registered with TMS with no internal MCU, I then need to schedule more than one of these internal devices to connect to a external MCU. The problem is that you cant add a external MCU or offline MCU to TMS meaning as soon as you schedule it will not have a root and gives an error.

 

Am I missing something?

VIP Purple

One work around to that would

One work around to that would be to create a TMS meeting for each of the endpoints individually (rather than including them all in the one meeting), where they all dial out to the external MCU.

Wayne
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What Wayne said. :) Bit more

What Wayne said. :) Bit more work, but it's the only option available if you can't get the external MCU to individually dial the end-points instead.

/jens

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Thanks you all, Would have

Thanks you all,

 

Would have been nice to be able to add an external ofline MCU like you can add an ofline external vc unit.

VIP Purple

Yep - it's not ideal - but is

Yep - it's not ideal - but is the only way I can see to do it.

If it's something that you're going to be doing regularly, you could flag it with your local Cisco Account Manager as a possible Feature Request for a new version of TMS.

Wayne
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Yup, I've submitted a feature

Yup, I've submitted a feature request a while back asking for the number of participants to be "unlocked" when adding a resource to TMS as "Room".

This is currently locked to "1", however, making this editable would be a great help as you then can add virtual meeting rooms to TMS bookings, and schedule the end-points to dial into that particular VMR.

/jens

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VIP Purple

One method is to user a

One method is to use a Participant Template, under Booking in TMS.

I've done this myself for an organization we conference with, for there MCU.  There is a option called "Reusable", which will allow you to schedule that device multiple times over bypassing TMS's scheduling logic of it already being scheduled and preventing you from scheduling it again.

 
  • Yes: The template will be used as a model and can be added to conferences. For dial ins the template can be used for one or several conferences several times. This disables the availability check for this participant in Cisco TMS.
  • No: The template can only be added once to one conference at a time, but is possible to reuse in a later conference. Cisco TMS availability checker will ensure that the template is used only once by setting the participant it represents to in-use.

True, but you'd still need to

True, but you'd still need to individually schedule each end-point to call this MCU/VMR, as once I add more participants, TMS automatically adds one of my MCUs to the conference.

Allowing number of participants to be editable when adding a resource such as a VMR as "Room" will get around this as it would then be treated in the same way a codec with on-board MCU.

/jens

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VIP Purple

Oh, okay, I get it know. 

Oh, okay, I get it know.  Yeah, that doesn't help.  :)

New Member

In a technical webinar update

In a technical webinar update about the future for the TMS I participated in, this feature was said to be implemented in April this year but I guess it got removed for some reason.

 

They said that in 14.4 we would be able to set up external MCU conferences, meaning that we could set up a few different virtual meeting room numbers that we would be able to select as a place for all the scheduled endpoints to dial. I think it's a nice feature and it's sad it has been removed.

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Wasn't in TMS 14.4, but is

Wasn't in TMS 14.4, but is now there in the newly released 14.5.

 

Wayne
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I noticed that when I read

I noticed that when I read the release notes after I heard that 14.5 were released! Boy was I surprised!

VIP Purple

You'll be even more surprised

You'll be even more surprised when you read the release notes a bit further and see you need the Network Interop licence to be able to do this... and that's $50k US list price.  It's cheaper to buy another bridge!

Wayne
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Thank you for sparing me the

Thank you for sparing me the time to look for the price. I can now go back to looking at this feature as non-existing. 

Cisco Employee

The Unmanaged Bridge

The Unmanaged Bridge functionality (unlocked by L or LIC-TMS-NETINT option key) requires manually configuring a set of up to 25 aliases or dial strings that TMS can use in a semi-random fashion. The dial string TMS selects is one that is available for the entire recurring meetings—all instances—which, would not be predictable without full knowledge of all meetings booked over time.

The Unmanaged Bridge option should be used for permanent, static bridge dial-in aliases and should not be used for user-specific aliases.

What you might be asking for is the Externally Hosted function. With the latest version of TMS, v15.1, the email booking confirmation provides a link at the bottom of the email. The booking owner can click on that link and in a very simple landing page, type or paste the SIP URI to be sent to the endpoints as OBTP. TMS will change all the endpoints that were scheduled into the meeting to now have OBTP to that specified SIP URI.

You can see the additional meeting details link at the bottom of the Booking Confirmation.

That link will take you to the TMS-hosted Meeting Details Page where you can edit the External Meeting Address (aka Externally Hosted SIP URI.) Notice that after I saved the new address, the Join Information now has the new SIP URI that I typed in.

VIP Purple

Thanks Gary, we'd already

Thanks mmcgary, we'd already mentioned a year ago that you can do this now (since TMS14.5) with the NetInterop licence key and setting up an unmanaged bridge, and the extremely expensive cost of such an option key.

Wayne
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