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Telepresence Design Suggestion

Hello all,

Our sales team has suggested following component for video conference solution at one of our customer. I need to know how following components will integrate with each other for video conferencing

1- VCS Express

2- VCS Control

3- DX-650

4- Telepresence Server UCUCS-EZ-C240M3S (Optional)

5- CUCM 10.x

I was going through some documents & found that VCS Express will connect behind firewall (external network) & VCS Control would be on internal LAN.

Customer requirement is to enable video conferencing between two sites.

Do VCS Express, VCS Control and DX-650 with CUCM 10.0 are enough for Video Conferencing ?

What is the purpose of Telepresence Server UCUCS-EZ-C240M3S ?

What should be the bandwidth consideration for video conference calls between sites ?

Regards

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Telepresence Design Suggestion

Assuming the business case and requirments have already justified all the other comonents in the solution you stated. You would need to add the Cisco TelePresence Conductor in order to get the best and most effecient use of the TS with CUCM anf the DX650.

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Re: Telepresence Design Suggestion

Alright Lawrence.

I cant find TelePresence Conductor in my BoQ:

How should i design solution (or connectivity) from items i do have ( assume we don't have TP Conductor) ?

DX650 would be my endpoint into CUCM, can we use it for VCS Control also ?

How many participants can join Video conference call in DX650 at a time ?

Following are the items i got:

CUWL-PRO-K9Unified   Workspace Licensing - Top Level for PRO - 9.x/10.x
NEW-UWL-PRONew   CUWL Professional Edition User 1 User
CCX-10-5ECCX   10 Enhanced 5 seat Promo Bundle
UCAPPS-SW-10.X-K9Version   10.x Software Kit
EXPWY-VE-C-K9Cisco   Expressway-C Server Virtual Edition
EXPWY-VE-E-K9Cisco   Expressway-E Server Virtual Edition
SW-EXP-8.X-K9Software   Image for Expressway with Encryption Version X8
LIC-PM-V-USR-UWLPersonal   Multiparty Video for Virtual Machine
CCX-90-NEW-STD-UWLCCX   9.0 NEW STANDARD for UWL
SME-PAKInclude   PAK Auto-expanding PAK for SME
LIC-UWL-PRO-AServices   Mapping SKU Under 1K UWL PRO users
UWL-PRO-PAKCUWL   PRO 9.x PAK
CCX-10-E-SVR-LICCCX   10.0 ENH Server License
CCX-10-N-E-LICCCX   10.0 ENH Seat Qty 1 LICENSE ONLY
CCX-10-PAKCCX   10.0 autoexpanded PAK
LIC-EXP-E-PAKExpressway   Series Expressway-E PAK
LIC-EXP-GWEnable   GW Feature (H323-SIP)
LIC-EXP-SERIESEnable Expressway Series Feature   Set
LIC-SW-EXP-K9License Key Software Encrypted
LIC-EXP-ANEnable Advanced Networking   Option
LIC-EXP-EEnable Expressway-E Feature Set
LIC-EXP-TURNEnable TURN Relay Option
LIC-AES-VTS-PMP-K9AES and HTTPS option for VTS
LIC-VTS-PMP-INTOPOrder L-VTS-UPG-PAK for   e-Delivery Virtual TS Interop Lic
LIC-VTS-PMP-K9Cisco VM TelePresence Server   Release Key
LIC-VTS-PMP-PAKPAK for e-Delivery Virtual TS   Lic
LIC-VTS-PMPUWL-1SLCisco TelePresence Server   Resource License
SW-VTS-V3.X-PMP-K9Software Image v3.X for Virtual   TelePresence Server
VTS-PMP-K9Cisco VM Telepresence Server
UCXN-10X-SC-PORTSUnity Connection 10.x   SpeechConnect Ports
UCXN-10X-UWL-PROUnity Connection 10.x CUWL PRO   Users
UCM-10X-UWL-PROUC Manager 10.x CUWL PRO Users
WEBEX-UWL-P-PAKWebEx PAK for CUWL PRO
R-CBE6K-K9Cisco Business Edition   6000-Electronic SW Delivery-Top Level
BE6K-SW-10.XCisco Business Edition 6000 -   Software Version 10.X
BE6K-UCL-BASCisco Business Edition 6000 -   Basic User Connect License
BE6K-UWL-STDCisco Business Edition 6000 -   Workspace License Standard
UCM-10X-UWLSTDBE6K UCM 10X CUWL BE Users -   Single Fulfillment
UCXN-10X-UWLSTDBE6K - Unity Connection 10x - VM   UWL Standard License
WBX-IM1-NH-UWLIncluded WebEx Messenger Users ( 1 Year Term)
WEBEX-UWL-BE-PAKWebEx PAK - CUWL BE
BE6K-PAKCisco Business Edition 6000 -   PAK - Single Fulfillment
UCM-10X-BAS-UCLBE6K UCM 10X Basic User Connect   License - Single Fulfillment
BE6K-ST-BDL-K9=Cisco BE6000 Medium Density   Server Export Restricted SW
CAB-9K10A-UKPower Cord 250VAC 10A BS1363   Plug (13 A fuse) UK
BE6K-SW-9X10XCisco Business Edition 6000 -   Software App Version 9.X 10.X
CIT-PSU-BLKPPower Supply Blanking   Panel/Filler
CIT-SD-16G-C22016GB SD Card Module for C220   servers
CTI-VCSC-BE6K-PAKConfig Only E-Delivery VCS   Control PAK PID
LIC-VCS-10+Video Comm Server 10 Add   Non-traversal Network Calls
LIC-VCS-BASE-K9License Key - VCS Encrypted   Software Image
LIC-VCS-GWEnable GW Feature (H323-SIP)
LIC-VCSE-5+Video Communication Server - 5   Traversal Calls
R2XX-RAID10Enable RAID 10 Setting
UC-A03-D500GC3500GB 6Gb SATA   7.2K RPM SFF Hot Plug/Drive Sled Mounted
UC-CPU-E5-26092.4 GHz E5-2609/80W 4C/10MB   Cache/DDR3 1066MHz
UC-MR-1X082RY-A8GB DDR3-1600-MHz   RDIMM/PC3-12800/Dual Rank/1.35v
UC-PSU-650W650W Power Supply Unit For UCSC   C220 Rack Server
UC-RAID-9271MegaRAID 9271-8i + Battery   Backup for C240 and C220
VMW-VS5-HYP-K9Cisco UC Virt. Hypervisor 5.x   (2-socket)
VMW-VS5-SNSCisco UC Virt. Hypervisor 5.x -   SnS
UCUCS-EZ-C240M3SUCS C240 M3 SFF dual-8-core/2.7 GHz 96 GB RAM   16x300GB 15
CAB-9K10A-UKPower Cord 250VAC 10A BS1363   Plug (13 A fuse) UK
N20-BBLKDUCS 2.5 inch HDD blanking panel
UCS-CPU-E5-26802.70 GHz E5-2680 130W 8C/20MB   Cache/DDR3 1600MHz
UCS-HDD300GI2F105300GB 6Gb SAS 15K RPM SFF   HDD/hot plug/drive sled mounted
UCS-MR-1X041RY-A4GB DDR3-1600-MHz   RDIMM/PC3-12800/single rank/1.35v
UCS-MR-1X082RY-A8GB DDR3-1600-MHz   RDIMM/PC3-12800/dual rank/1.35v
UCS-RAID9271CV-8IMegaRAID 9271CV with 8 internal   SAS/SATA ports with Supercap
UCSC-HS-C240M3Heat Sink for UCS C240 M3 Rack   Server
UCSC-PCIE-IRJ45Intel i350 Quad Port 1Gb Adapter
UCSC-PCIF-01FFull height PCIe filler for   C-Series
UCSC-PSU2-12001200W 2u Power Supply For UCS
UCSC-RAIL-2U2U Rail Kit for UCS C-Series   servers
UCSC-SD-16G-C24016GB SD Card Module for C240   Servers
VMW-VS5-ST-3A=VMware vSphere 5 Standard (1   CPU) 3yr Support Required
UCS-VMW-TERMSAcceptance of Terms Standalone   VMW License for UCS Servers
Cisco Employee

Virtual Telepresence Server

Virtual Telepresence Server (vTS) would require Conductor to function (it is permenately in remote managed mode, Cisco remote management solution is Conductor)

DX650 is for use on the CUCM only.  You would need something to host conferences on, either a Standalone MCU (8510, 5320, etc), TPS (8710 or 7010), or Conductor to utilze the vTS you already have.

 

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Hi Jonathan,Do you mean that

Hi Jonathan,

Do you mean that Conductor should order separately or it comes included with the PRO license ? 

Cisco TelePresence Conductor

Cisco TelePresence Conductor is ordered separately with these three options:

  • R-VMCNDTRM-K9 (Mid-size deployment)
  • L-CNDTR-UG-PAK (Upgrade from mid to full capacity)
  • R-VMCNDTR-K9 (Full capacity)

 

regards,

Acevirgil

 

 

Community Member

Thanks, so I should order the

Thanks, so I should order the part number TP-SMP-K9 to get it included with the license

before it was coming included with part number TP-PMP-K9 which is no more there

Exactly. TP-SMP-K9 is also an

Exactly. TP-SMP-K9 is also an option that includes TelePresence Conductor.

 

regards,

Acevirgil

Community Member

Hi,

Hi,

I am working on a project to install video conference calls. I have CUCM 10.x,imp 10.x, MX700,MX 300 , 8945 phones and jabber clients as the end points. Communication is working very well.

For the video conference calls , i  have installed two VTS with the TS screen x9 license. I have equally installed TC conductor  to support the conference bridges. I was meant to understand that  without the TC conductor license,the server capacity will be lmited to a standalone bridge

questions

1. what is a stand alone bridge ?

2. with the TS screen license x9 installed ,how many participants can join the conference ? Currently ,its only 4 screens  can i see. The fifth person ca join but his screen is black. I thought the Ts screen lcense x9 is for 9 participants 

thank you in anticipation 

VIP Super Bronze

Because you have two

Because you have two TelePresence Servers, if you didn't have Conductor, each vTS would be independent of the other.  With Conductor, you can load balance the conferences between the two servers, as well as cascade a conference across the two servers, creating a large single conference.

The number of participants you can connect to depends on the quality defined within the conference template on Conductor as well as the server platform you're running, see Tables 6 thru 8 of the TelePresence Server Data Sheet.

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Hello Patrick,

Hello Patrick,

thank you for your response. According to Telepresence conductor data sheet,it will not combine the two vts to create a large conference if its not licensed .is that correct? or the license key deprives you from having more than one conference

which content below will allow 10 participants ?

Call Type Description

Screen Licenses Required
per Call

Main Video

Audio

Content

-

Mono

1/52

360p301

Mono

In main video

1/8

360p301

Stereo

720p5

1/4

480p30

Stereo

In main video

1/4

480p30

Stereo

720p5

1/3

720p30

Stereo

720p5

1/2

720p30

Stereo

720p30

1

1080p30

Stereo

720p15

1

720p60

Stereo

720p15

1

1080p30

Stereo

720p30

1 and 1/2

3-screen 720p30

Multichannel

720p5

1 and 1/2

3-screen 720p30

Multichannel

720p30

2

1080p30

Stereo

1080p30

2

Dual-screen 1080p30

Stereo

720p30

2

3-screen 1080p

Multichannel

720p30

3

3-screen 1080p

Multichannel

1080p30

4

4-screen 1080p

Stereo

1080p30

4

am getting this error when i try to add more than 4 participants

'Unable to create conferences as insufficient TelePresence Server license resource is available in pool'

what is TS Screen license x9?

thank you in advance

VIP Super Bronze

Refer to the Conductor XC2.4

Refer to the Conductor XC2.4 Release Notes to read about TelePresence Server cascading.

Screen licenses are consumed based on the quality of the conference template in Conductor, so if you want to connect up to 10 participants, you'll need to configure the conference template to a video and content quality that will use 1 screen license or less, for example:

720p30 video + 720p30 content = 1 screen license

720p30 video + 720p5 content = 1/2 screen license

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Hi,

Hi,

I have read the release notes but the document didn't give clue on the maximum number of resources that can be reserved on the primary bridge.

I think the picture on the screen license is getting clearer to me. The quality of the video content determines the screen for the participants. For instance, 10 participants can share one screen license cos they are in the same conference room while other participants in another room can share another screen license.

Each of my vts has TS screen license x9 which means I am entitled to 4 screen license for each and 8 screen licenses for both.

Since am using unlicensed TelePresence conductor, am only entitled to one bridge. So, do you think that the cascading of the VTS will work?in addition, am running 8vcore for vts

Community Member

Hello Patrick,

Hello Patrick,

still battling with the issue.I cant add more than 4 participants . I have edited by conference template but to no avail.if i use full HD,the video will not display. if i set up the cascading, the video will not show. i informed you earlier that the Telepresence conductor is limited to a single standalone bridge when its not licensed.

The VTS  status is showing the following

Feature keys
Virtual Machine activation Enabled
Encryption Enabled
Screen licenses

4

VIP Super Bronze

Sorry I misread they part

Sorry I misread they part where you said Conductor wasn't licensed, in that  case, standalone means that you can only use one conference bridge and it must not be part of a cluster. 

I thought when you said you had 9 screen licenses, I thought that was per TelePresense Server. With 4 screen licenses per server, you should be able to have a conference with 10 participants if you set the conference template to 480p30 video + 730p5 content, or anything less than that. If you divide the number of available screen licenses, by the number of participants, the value you'll get is what will help determine the conference template quality you can use. 

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