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Cisco best practice design recommendation for adding a subscriber?

Hello all,

We have UC Manager 7.1(3) running on a publisher and subscriber that is serving as the central voip to five (soon to be six) offices.  At what point does cisco recommend an additional subscriber be added to a cluster for call processing and load balancing?  I have been tearing through cisco's website and I am not finding this info.  I am sure it is there, just buried!

Any feedback and links to the doc would be a huge help.

Thank you.

Rgds,

Vicky

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Re: Cisco best practice design recommendation for adding a subsc

Vicky,

The answer you are looking for depends on a few things.  The most basic are:

1) What hardware are you running? This will determine the maximum number of phones that can be registered to any one server. 

2) The answer to the first question comes into play as you total up how many phones you need to accommodate throughout the entire cluster.  In addition, you want to provide adequate redundancy as well.  Right now, you have a 1:1 model (Sub should be primary call processing agent but can failover to Publisher).  As your cluster expands, you may need to consider a 2:1 model (2 active Subs, 1 backup) or continue with a 1:1 model.

3) If your cluster has 1000+ phones, you need to look into going with a Pub, 2 Subs, and a dedicated TFTP server.

Without getting too far into the weeds, take a look here first: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cust_contact/contact_center/ipcc_enterprise/srnd/7x/c7ccmsrv.pdf

Then, if you have additional questions - please ask!

Hailey

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Re: Cisco best practice design recommendation for adding a subsc

If you have access to the sizing tool you can try running your desired scenario and see what it recommends.

http://tools.cisco.com/cucst/

If you start with smalls scenarios and start increasing the endpoints don't be surprised that at some point there is a big jump in the amount of servers

This tool also follows the best practices and depending on the version you choose at some point it will tell you the same advise as Hailey and the SRND

+1000 phones we recommend a separate PUB, a separate SUB and at least 1:1 redundancy (2 SUBs)

AFAIK it follows the same numbers as the SRND so if you use 8.X, instead of 1000 phones, it would be 1250 phones.

HTH

java

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HTH

java

if this helps, please rate

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Re: Cisco best practice design recommendation for adding a subsc

Vicky,

The answer you are looking for depends on a few things.  The most basic are:

1) What hardware are you running? This will determine the maximum number of phones that can be registered to any one server. 

2) The answer to the first question comes into play as you total up how many phones you need to accommodate throughout the entire cluster.  In addition, you want to provide adequate redundancy as well.  Right now, you have a 1:1 model (Sub should be primary call processing agent but can failover to Publisher).  As your cluster expands, you may need to consider a 2:1 model (2 active Subs, 1 backup) or continue with a 1:1 model.

3) If your cluster has 1000+ phones, you need to look into going with a Pub, 2 Subs, and a dedicated TFTP server.

Without getting too far into the weeds, take a look here first: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cust_contact/contact_center/ipcc_enterprise/srnd/7x/c7ccmsrv.pdf

Then, if you have additional questions - please ask!

Hailey

Please rate helpful posts!

Cisco Employee

Re: Cisco best practice design recommendation for adding a subsc

If you have access to the sizing tool you can try running your desired scenario and see what it recommends.

http://tools.cisco.com/cucst/

If you start with smalls scenarios and start increasing the endpoints don't be surprised that at some point there is a big jump in the amount of servers

This tool also follows the best practices and depending on the version you choose at some point it will tell you the same advise as Hailey and the SRND

+1000 phones we recommend a separate PUB, a separate SUB and at least 1:1 redundancy (2 SUBs)

AFAIK it follows the same numbers as the SRND so if you use 8.X, instead of 1000 phones, it would be 1250 phones.

HTH

java

If this helps, please rate

www.cisco.com/go/pdihelpdesk

HTH

java

if this helps, please rate

www.cisco.com/go/pdi
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Re: Cisco best practice design recommendation for adding a subsc

Hi David,

Thank you for your reply.  We are running on two MCS-7835-H2-ECS1 servers for a Publisher and Subscriber running UCManager 7.1(3).  We currently have a little over 800 IP phones in production. With the Cisco best practice design recommendation 1000+ phones, should move to a Pub, 2 Subs, and a dedicated TFTP server, I am thinking we need the additional server in our budget!

Thank you again for your help!

Rgds,

Vicky

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