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10mbps on 100mps Bearer BT IP Clear - Shape?

Hi All,

We have a BT IP Clear circuit (wires only MPLS) which has been ordered with 10mbps of bandwidth, it has been provided as a 100mbps ethernet circuit. Would you normally need to apply shaping to the outbound interface in order to prevent the traffic exceeding 10mbps in this situation? I assume although the circuit is provided as 100mbps the provider will have some policing in place to limit this to the 10mps. Can I rely on their network to control this or will they just drop traffic exceeding the 10mbps of ordered bandwidth.

If shaping is required what is the best command to use, I am currently using shape average but I am not sure if this is needed or the best way of doing this.

We are currently seeing pings on this circuit of around 10ms, is this to be expected for this type of circuit? We have other site to site 10mbps Ethernet links between our own sites and on these we see pings of around 1ms.

Does anyone have any experience of these circuits, can you advise?

Jason

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Yes, that's what I would normally use, i.e. a policy map with a shaper.  (Allows you to add other QoS features, if needed).  (NB: BTW, Cisco shapers normally dequeue using WFQ or FQ.)

If your WAN topology now is multipoint, you might have congestion coming out of the cloud.  Usual solution for this is the MPLS provider supports some kind of QoS model.

For your ADSL links you probably should shape them too for their upstream bandwidths.

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10mbps on 100mps Bearer BT IP Clear - Shape?

Hi Jason,

Too many question...

Yes, if you exceed 10 Mbps, exceeding traffic CAN / WILL be dropped by provider.

Regarding ping response time, you need to check your SLA document and also from where to where you are seeing that latency.

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Smitesh

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If the provider polices their bandwidth rate, then shaping is a really good idea.  Even if they shape their rate, you may still want to shape yourself as to have control over how packets are prioritized.

BTW, when you shape, if your shaper doesn't account for L2 overhead, you may want to shape the L3 rate down by the expected L2 overhead.

As to you ping times between sites, is there any major difference in physical distances between sites?

What's the logical topology between sites, p2p or multipoint?  If the latter, is egress congestion possible?

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Re: 10mbps on 100mps Bearer BT IP Clear - Shape?

Thanks Joseph.

This is really useful. What is the best way to shape, is a policy map using shape average using a service policy output on the interface the best way to do this? I currently have the bandwidth command on the interface set to bandwidth 10000.

Not too concerned about the ping, I just wanted to ensure what we were seeing with this was to be expected as we had not used the BT MPLS network before. Previous we have just worked with point to point lan extensions between sites.

We have a 10mbps on (100mbps bearer) Ethernet extension link into BTs MPLS network; we then have remote sites connected into the MPLS cloud via ADSL links.

Jason

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Yes, that's what I would normally use, i.e. a policy map with a shaper.  (Allows you to add other QoS features, if needed).  (NB: BTW, Cisco shapers normally dequeue using WFQ or FQ.)

If your WAN topology now is multipoint, you might have congestion coming out of the cloud.  Usual solution for this is the MPLS provider supports some kind of QoS model.

For your ADSL links you probably should shape them too for their upstream bandwidths.

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