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Welcome to the Cisco Support Community Ask the Expert conversation. This is an opportunity to learn and ask questions from Cisco expert Erik Vangrunderbeek about the changes done to the new version of the Wireless Cisco Certified Internetworking Expert (CCIE) exam that was launched recently. Erik is an Engineering Product Manager for Cisco and manages the CCIE Wireless written and lab exams.
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Thanks for your question. We are on the schedule for Cisco Live in San Diego, which is taken place June 10-14, 2012. There will be a CCIE Wireless Techtorial, including a CCIE Wireless Lab Demo. You can find the abstract of the session below. There are several other Wireless sessions you might find interesting and you could benefit from for your study, please check out the event schedule.
This session serves as the primary exam tutorial with major focus on Lab exam preparation that addresses the technologies and concepts emphasized in the CCIE Wireless track. Topics are covered from the CCIE Wireless lab blueprint. This interactive session is designed to assist candidates in understanding preparatory needs and providing comprehensive preparation guidelines to achieve the CCIE Wireless certification. This session covers general program information including written and lab exam details followed by a CCIE Wireless v2 overview covering the blueprint, and provides guidelines on exam tips, and test taking strategies. Included in this session is a live lab demo covering both implementation and troubleshooting techniques for topics covered in the Lab exam environment. The demo does not only provides technical tips, but also a comprehensive understanding of how the Lab exam grading is done.
To add to that I attended the session in Vegas '11 with Erik, Javier, Matt, and Stephen and found it extremely useful. I think the most useful part I found was going over the lab demo with the team and seeing exactly how they graded. That is one of the items that ultimately helped me in acheiving my number and I would strongly encourage anyone attending Cisco Live this year to go to that session. It was well worth the added cost!
Thanks blakekrone, good to hear you found the session usefull.
Just as a fyi for people who attended the Techtorial in Vegas last year, lab demo content will be updated!
Thanks for your question. We are indeed thinking about offering Wireless in other locations (in addition to Brussels, RTP, San Jose and Sydney). Unfortunately I cannot confirm location or date at this point in time. Keep an eye on the CCIE Wireless CLN page, where we will keep you posted of any future changes with regards to lab locations once confimed.
Thanks for your questions.
With regards to training tips, I always suggest candidates to map out their strengths and weaknesses against all topics in the blueprint. Once you identified areas where you can improve, the configuration guides and best practices are a good place to start.
In addition, we are currenlty finalizing a Cisco Press CCIE Wireless Quick Reference E-book, covering key concepts of all blueprint topics including links to online documents providing more detailed information on the topic. I do not have an estimated time of release at this point in time, but I expect the book to become available in the next coming months.
WIth regards to 3rd party training classes, we do not recommend any particular training classes, simply because we do not have any control over the material that is covered within these classes. That being said, I am hearing a lot of good feedback about several 3rd party training classes. It's a matter of you finding out which training class works for you. Identify your training needs and make sure to talk to fellow candidates to figure out what training class best fits your personal needs. If you plan to attend a bootcamp training, I personally would schedule it towards the end of your study to make sure you get the most out of it.
Good luck with your study!
The CCIE Wireless has had a couple of sessions at Cisco Live, certainly last year that I am aware of and maybe another planned for this year which gives people an insight into what to expect in the exam and grading mechanisms? Would it be possible to have a VOD presenting similar information for candidates who are not fortunate enough to attend Cisco Live.
Thanks for reaching out. Currently there are no VOD's available covering Cisco Live events related to CCIE Wireless. That being said, you will find the CCIE Wireless Breakout sessions from earlier events on the https://www.ciscolivevirtual.com website. I do recognize a larger community could benefit from the material we share at Cisco Live events and will be sharing similar information on the CLN Wireless web pages in the near future.
Hope this answers your question.
I have a question relative to the equipment/software list for the lab. While the lab Exam topics don't state anything about EAP-TLS or much relative to Certificates.
Is EAP-TLS covered?
Also what CA is used if any? I don't see anything in the Equipment/Software list about CA's but ACS is there as well as the line below (c) states Basic PKI for dot1x and webauth.:
Good question. Configuring a Microsoft CA server yourself is outside the scope of the v2 exam, but we do expect candidates to be able to work with pre-configured SSL certificates, SSCs and to be able to configure LSCs on the Cisco devices. So EAP-TLS (and Certificates) should be on your radar when studying for the lab.
Is there a checklist going to be posted regarding V2.0?(Interested to see if configuring MS DHCP for server 2003 or 2008 is on there?) Also, on the Overview page for the CCIE Lab Exam it states that there are still Core Knowledge Questions, can you confirm that these have been removed from V2.0?
Thanks for your questions.
We had no immediate plans post a checklist for the v2 exam, as the blueprint itself is quit specific. But let me revisit this topic and look into creating a checklist we can publish on CLN.
In v2 we do not expect candidates to configure a MS DHCP Server. I could be part of your lab exam, but in that case we would only expect you to be able to work with a fully pre-configured MS DHCP Server. In general, for v2 , all non-Cisco applications interactions and/or topics are kept to an absolute minimum from a configuration point of view.
Upon checking the overview page for the CCIE Wireless Lab Exam it indeed refers to a Core Knowledge section. I can confirm Core Knowledge questions were removed from the exam, and as such the CK information is outdated. I already requested our marketing team to update this asap. Thanks a lot for bringing this to my attention.
Thanks very much for your reply to my earlier question, the information was very useful.
Following on from Jamie,s question, I understand that we may have non Cisco components in the lab such as an Active Directory domain, DNS etc. I am not sure however a list of non Cisco components or an architectural overview would help. I understand some of the CCIE lab topologies are in the public domain which again would be helpfull.
My biggest concern would be with some more specific areas that are not necessarily wireless specific but fall within the realm of being possible question and configurations in the exam, which I assume a great deal of wireless engineers may never work on. Specificallly, and from personal experience as follows.
1 - I understand that the CCIE Wireless lab expects you to have a good CCNP R&S level of knowledge. OK so from that EIGRP (Cisco favourite) is fair game as would be OSPF. However would BGP and RIP or even ISIS be fair game?
2 - Firewalls are not specifically mentioned, can we assume that there are no ASA5505s to be configured or modified?
3 - The hardware list mentions the 7925 but there is no reference to voice firmware, I am assuming CME but which version and will we need to do any configuration steps on the CME?
4 - Do we have access to the WLC config analyser ( I appreciate it is not a supported tool)
5 - What are we using in the lab for telnet/SSH client?
Obviously I appreciate you may not be able to answer all of this because of disclosure etc however I appreciate the opporttunity that we now have to fire these questions at you.
All questions are fair game in this forum, no worries.
Let me try to answer your questions.
0. About non-Cisco components. Jamie and you have a valid point. It is indeed a good idea we publish a list of non-Cisco components that might be used within the lab and you could be expected to interact with (even if they do not require any configuration from a candidates perspective). I will make sure that this gets added to the quipment & software list. Currently I can think of: MS DHCP Server, MS DNS and MS CA Server.
1. Basic EIGRP and OSPF configuration and troubleshooting skills are expected for both the written and the lab. BGP, RIP and ISIS are outside the scope of the Wireless Exams. If you visit the blueprint you will see this confirmed; it only mentions static routing, EIGRP and OSPF.
2. ASA's (firewalls in general) are outside the scope of the exam as well and are not even part of the topology. You will only be able to expected to configure devices mentionned in the equipment list.
3. You need to be able to setup a Cisco 7925 Wireless Phone. No CM(E) configuration skills are expected. From a candidate point of view the CM(E) will be fully pre-configured. Currently Voice firmware release 1.4(1) is used.
4. I agree the WLC config analyzer is a powerfull tool, but you will not have access to it during your lab exam.
5. SecureCRT 3.0 is currently used as telnet client to access your devices by console.
I hope this answers your questions. Let me know if you need further clarification.
Thanks for taking the time to clarify those points, very much appreciated.
One last query that I alluded to in my previous post.
Are there any plans to release the topology as I understand the R&S lab topology is common knowledge, or certainly was when it was hardware based? Or do you feel that may devalue the "shock and awe" experience of the wireless lab?
Secondly I know it usually takes a few attempts to pass a CCIE lab, therefore although certainly the questions may vary is the topology standardised, that is to say each time you take the lab does the topology change or is it fixed?
We have no plans as such to release the lab topology. To my knowledge, this was not done for R&S either. That being said, I would not think anyone would be thrown of their feet by the topology when walking into the lab as we have a "classic" network setup (headquarters, remote- and home office site). A little imagination combined with the equipment list and topics covered in the blueprint pretty much lay out the topology for you. :-)
Our topology is standardized and fixed from a physical point of view as tampering with the cable connections between lab attempts is something we want to avoid. Of course the logical topology can vary between exam versions.
Hope this helps.
I have gone through all your reply and honestly ,It is really useful .
I am also looking forward to get CCIE wireless certification but unfortunately I am not getting proper study material or any Online video training .
Does Cisco has got any plan to have schedule for Cisco Live in India?
I would appreciate if you could suggest me for any resource to get study material / specially video training .....
I am afraid there are no Cisco CCIE Wireless video trainings available. I have seen some CCIE Wireless video trainings on the web (on youtube or 3rd party vendor websites) that you might find useful. As those are not owned by Cisco, I prefer not to make any specific recommendations but try out your luck browsing the internet and check what might work for you.
As far as I know there is no Cisco Live event scheduled in India in 2012. Maybe there is an Expo or similar conference scheduled?
In 2012 we will only be delivering a CCIE Wireless session in San Diego, US (June10th - 14th). As I know this is inconvenient for a lot of people, we will try to increase our presence through CLN and Cisco Press over the next months.
This forum is about to close, I would like to thank all of you who took the oportunity to ask questions. I personnaly got a lot of out of it, in the sense that I understood a lot of you guys are looking for proper training material. As such I will try to make sure making sure more training / reference material becomes availble in the future through CLN and Cisco Press.
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